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Old 12-20-2024, 11:06 AM   #16121
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No, I was just interested in a breakdown of it, and searching for polls about early elections on Google didn’t return anything.
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Basing that on international media coverage lately. Covering our soap opera.
Oh sure, but its like the end of December, they're just bored. We just happen to be the most interesting thing in the news cycle right now.

Although, I will grant you, in terms of Governmental collapses this is a doozy. But it hardly compares to the merry-go-round of British PMs or the political collapses of Germany and France, etc.

The only thing that makes ours notable is just how amazingly Justin has screwed this pooch, but I still cant believe that nobody saw this coming.

He was a dead-man walking as soon as he called that Pandemic Election and ended up...exactly where he started. He hasn't had a mandate to govern this country in a while, were it not for Jagmeet then Justin would have been collecting unemployment insurance for a while now.
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I'm guessing that Singh never gets to call that vote. Trudeau will prorogue Parliament and step down, allowing the Libs time to pick a sacrificial lamb for the election.
Wouldn't they just want to sacrifice Trudeau in this case? Is the thought process that choosing a new leader might net them better results in the next election?
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I'm guessing that Singh never gets to call that vote. Trudeau will prorogue Parliament and step down, allowing the Libs time to pick a sacrificial lamb for the election.
Normally I'd agree with you (and actually predicted such) but that would look pretty dumb now that he's done a cabinet shuffle, what's the point of that if he's going to shut it all down?
Who knows with this clown shoe government?
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I'm guessing that Singh never gets to call that vote. Trudeau will prorogue Parliament and step down, allowing the Libs time to pick a sacrificial lamb for the election.
So much intrigue. Feb should be fun in Ottawa. Either way it’s looking more and more like a spring election. This gong show can’t go on forever.

Tie that in with whatever trumps plans are in terms of trade restrictions and it should turn into a perfect crapstorm.
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Old 12-20-2024, 11:10 AM   #16126
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Under Singh’s leadership, the NDP has lost nearly half its seats since Tom Mulcair’s tenure. Whether that’s entirely his fault or not is irrelevant—it seems unlikely that this trend will reverse in his third election. Singh knows his time as leader is coming to an end, but he’s clinging on until he reaches that coveted six-year mark.

With everything to lose personally, Singh is turning his back on Canadians. I suspect a supermajority will be the inevitable outcome of this government’s complete debacle and most of that is on the incomponent regressive Trudeau Liberals but Singh could of stopped the bleeding.
Does the NDP caucaus not have a say? or is Singh just eschewing all forms of caucus decorum to get his bag?

What is a supermajority? in Canada?
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Normally I'd agree with you (and actually predicted such) but that would look pretty dumb now that he's done a cabinet shuffle, what's the point of that if he's going to shut it all down?
Who knows with this clown shoe government?
Never say never in the days of our lives.
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Does the NDP caucaus not have a say? or is Singh just eschewing all forms of caucus decorum to get his bag?

What is a supermajority? in Canada?
2/3 of the seats or more
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Kind of awkward for Erskine-Smith being interviewed right now. He's being asked why he would be in cabinet when he's not even running for re-election.
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Watching CBC Live and its a train wreck for the Liberals. When Rosemary Barton is calling this Prime ministers actions shameful, you know how far this has come
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Does the NDP caucaus not have a say? or is Singh just eschewing all forms of caucus decorum to get his bag?

What is a supermajority? in Canada?
The NDP caucus does have a say in party direction and leadership decisions, but in practice, the leader wields significant influence. Singh’s choices may reflect both personal motivations and the reality of maintaining party unity, even at the cost of making compromises. Whether he’s eschewing caucus decorum for personal gain is hard to prove, but the lack of pushback from within the caucus suggests either alignment with his strategy or a reluctance to challenge him directly.

As for a supermajority, in the Canadian context, it’s not an official term like in some countries (e.g., the U.S., where it refers to a certain threshold in Congress). Here, it typically refers to a governing party winning an overwhelming majority of seats in the House of Commons, giving them substantial control over legislation without needing support from opposition parties.

The concern is that the current government’s failures, combined with Singh’s perceived inaction, may set the stage for a dominant majority government by the Conservatives—an outcome that some might see as a backlash to the mismanagement of the Trudeau Liberals and the NDP’s perceived complicity.
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Pretty sure Erskine-Smith is targeting another run at provincial leadership if/when the Ford government calls and election, wins it, and then Bonnie Crombie steps down. She was the wrong pick for the OLP, and Erskine-Smith would be infinitely better as a counterforce to the Ford government. Selfishly I want him nowhere near federal leadership responsibilities, it's just a distraction for where I think his interest lies.

That said, this is an awkward pick indeed, this wasn't on my bingo card.
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Kind of awkward for Erskine-Smith being interviewed right now. He's being asked why he would be in cabinet when he's not even running for re-election.
Another MP who refused an appointment said why would I enter a burning building.

Media must be having a field day.
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So it’s still just “uh I guess just the wealth tax” then?

Seems odd that you’ve mentioned “other policies” several times and haven’t been able to name one.

Did you not read that i would be back with more lol? I actually have to work bro, be patient.

No comment on the wealth tax? It's a dumb idea that will in the long wrong hurt the people it's designed to help.
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Watching CBC Live and its a train wreck for the Liberals. When Rosemary Barton is calling this Prime ministers actions shameful, you know how far this has come
Hell must have frozen over!
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Did you not read that i would be back with more lol? I actually have to work bro, be patient.

No comment on the wealth tax? It's a dumb idea that will in the long wrong hurt the people it's designed to help.
Awaiting incoming insults. Get ready to duck Mel.
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Basing that on international media coverage lately. Covering our soap opera.
Germany
France
(until recently) England
Romania
South Korea
The US

Lots of countries currently fall into the category of "laughing stock" politically

We Canadians seem to have an outsized feeling of grandeur with our puny little country
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2/3 of the seats or more
Thats not really a thing here.

No house of commons votes require 2/3, unless its a constitutional amendment which also requires senate and provincial votes.

i could be wrong but
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The NDP caucus does have a say in party direction and leadership decisions, but in practice, the leader wields significant influence. Singh’s choices may reflect both personal motivations and the reality of maintaining party unity, even at the cost of making compromises. Whether he’s eschewing caucus decorum for personal gain is hard to prove, but the lack of pushback from within the caucus suggests either alignment with his strategy or a reluctance to challenge him directly.

As for a supermajority, in the Canadian context, it’s not an official term like in some countries (e.g., the U.S., where it refers to a certain threshold in Congress). Here, it typically refers to a governing party winning an overwhelming majority of seats in the House of Commons, giving them substantial control over legislation without needing support from opposition parties.

The concern is that the current government’s failures, combined with Singh’s perceived inaction, may set the stage for a dominant majority government by the Conservatives—an outcome that some might see as a backlash to the mismanagement of the Trudeau Liberals and the NDP’s perceived complicity.
This is all conjecture. Like al of your posts.

As posted previosuly "super majority" means nothing
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Germany
France
(until recently) England
Romania
South Korea
The US

Lots of countries currently fall into the category of "laughing stock" politically

We Canadians seem to have an outsized feeling of grandeur with our puny little country
Fair enough. Maybe we’re this weeks laughingstock?
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