Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its going to take a long time to fix this mess.

Even longer when PP LaPew is finished with it.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The ball is now in Jagmeets court if he really believes what he has been spewing today.

"This guy must go!" screams Jagmeet, convincingly, as he single handedly keeps this guy in power

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Oh I see....so Singh needs something promised to him before doing the right thing? The right thing being that Trudeau must go and go now. The right thing that he came out and flatly stated about 4 hours ago?





That guy needs an incentive to follow through on what he "believes"?

What kind of a leader is that?

This is politics, man. Where did this piety come from?

the "right" thing is entirely subjective

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cappy

This is politics, man. Where did this piety come from?

the "right" thing is entirely subjective

Jagmeets own words man...not mine.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Jagmeets own words man...not mine.

That's not stated in your quote.

Maybe he meant the "right" thing to resign? but i didnt hear that

[GGG]

I want to know why and what the 16 billion in indigenous claims is and if it should have been included far sooner. Other than that a 5 billion miss on revenues of 400 ish billion isn’t bad.

The headline number is terrible but restated another way. Government comes in within 1.25% of forecast budget.

The day to day spending of government vs budget seems under control. This seems far less notable then any other screwup of this government.

[transplant99]

60 MPs have signed a letter wanting JT to step down according to one of the guests on Power Play....just now.

Remarkable stuff.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Jagmeets own words man...not mine.

You know there’s a difference between someone resigning and the government changing party hands, right?

Like, do any of you guys understand that or do you honestly believe what you’re saying?

[btimbit]

Just because Singh wants Trudeau to step down doesn't mean he wants to trigger an election and hand the country over to populist yahoos.

[Beninho]

Harper had a lower deficit during the worst global recession of the last century. I was never even a huge Harper fan but Canada is in desperate need for a PM who is an economic expert. Not sure that is coming regardless who is elected but that number is legitimately breathtaking in a bad way

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

Even longer when PP LaPew is finished with it.

Would you rather the government in power makes things worse, just to hand PP that worst hand possible (at our expense); or that they do better, even though that will hand PP a slightly less garbage starting point?

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You know there’s a difference between someone resigning and the government changing party hands, right?

Like, do any of you guys understand that or do you honestly believe what you’re saying?

Personally, I just like to shyt-post for the very brief dopamine hit.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Just because Singh wants Trudeau to step down doesn't mean he wants to trigger an election and hand the country over to populist yahoos.

The majority of Canada wants a election so they can vote in the "populist yahoos" stop holding the country hostage.

[Monahammer]

Holy #### at $16 billion in indigenous payout too though.

We need to redefine that conversation and relationship.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by curves2000

As someone who is clearly very pro-organized labour, don't sit here and tell me that NDP Jagmeet is someone who is in the same boat as you. Members of the NDP, NDP voters, NDP friendly union leaders may actually be concerned with labour policies. Jagmeet cares about those policies about as much as he cares about the lint in his laundry or a bottle cap at a bottle depot, which is to say not really.

The guy has had so many breakaways on an empty net in order to score that it's not even funny. You have been debating plenty of posters over the years where Trudeau rolled over the NDP in the type of policies you have advocated for. Trudeau has played the NDP like a fiddle up until now and all of a sudden today is the day that Jaqmeet should do something?

Did you notice the other items I mentioned? Pharma and dental care are the primary reasons behind why the NDP entered into the deal in the first place and it has been costing singh politically, if Pierre offered to keep those in place and Singh refused to make a deal with him to force an election I know a lot of NDP supporters who wouldn’t be voting for him next time around. So it’s kind of win/win for Pierre to do it.

You spent a lot of time talking about myself and Singh but you kinda left a burning questions:

1. What is your opposition to Pierre making that offer to Singh?

2. What is the downside?

Worse case scenario is Singh says no but that wouldn’t reflect poorly on Pierre.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You know there’s a difference between someone resigning and the government changing party hands, right?

Like, do any of you guys understand that or do you honestly believe what you’re saying?

Paul Martin was only a hockey player.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cappy

That's not stated in your quote.

Maybe he meant the "right" thing to resign? but i didnt hear that

Yes....Singh has demanded Trudeau resign...but it may not of been him who used the phrase of "right thing" (ive watched/heard/read a hundred different things today)

Then Iggy suggested I email PP and suggest that he makes a deal with Singh. I merely questioned him needing an incentive to do what he claims must happen and will have the ability to make happen in a couple months.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh on Monday called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau “to resign,” adding that “all options” were on the table when asked if he would support a non-confidence motion

“Instead of focusing on these issues, Justin Trudeau and the Liberals are focused on themselves. They’re fighting themselves instead of fighting for Canadians. And for that reason, today, I’m calling on Justin Trudeau to resign,” Singh said.

“He has to go.”

Either way, its him and him alone that has enabled JT to remain in power by making a deal to do so.

If "all options" really are on the table, I suspect he will be more than happy to use them?

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

So Axing a Tax has consequences? Huh...who knew?

That is a some top notch spin right here. Wow.

[Firebot]

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

The majority of Canada wants a election so they can vote in the "populist yahoos" stop holding the country hostage.

Hey, I'm at the point where I just want to get it over with too so hopefully the Liberals and NDP clean house.

But let's not pretend the CPC are competent either. I would have been more okay with it had the US election gone differently, but PP will just be like Danielle Smith and cave to every Trump demand. I don't think it's really that difficult to see Singh's position here. Liberals bad, Conservatives worse, especially from an NDP point of view. That makes sense to me

"Hold the country hostage" lol, get real. Nobody is delaying an election, worst case you'll get one in the fall