Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by transplant99

That 21 or 22 Billion dollar miss....occurred in a 6 month time frame.

Yeah.....we need an election.... yesterday......... to stop that kind of insanity.

Email Pierre and tell him to make a deal with jagmeet that he’ll maintain some level of pharma/dental care and slightly moderate his parties’ labour policies if he supports a non confidence vote. Otherwise we’re waiting another $40B+in debt I mean year.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Had he meaningfully shifted some of his parties’ policies a year or two ago he probably would have gotten the support needed to get an early election.

Who would have provided said support? The NDP that would have been crushed? His arch rivals in the Liberals? The Block?

Only the Conservatives were/are interested in an early election

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

It seems funny that you continue to bend over backwards to defend a guy who is currently and actively mismanaging things, due to concerns that the guy on the other team that you don’t like ‘might’ do those things when he is in power.

If PP is missing his fiscal guardrails so egregiously as is happening now, I have no doubt you will be justifiably raking him over the coals. But it is sad to watch anyone with such blatant partisanship unable to even be aware of their own double standard.

LOL. I don't have to guess about PP. He's done enough already. But your support of him seems to depend on him doing things he never said he do, and not doing things he says he would. And even the things conservatives want him to do have been utter failures (I guess most of you were too young to have the true Harper experience).

I don't even like Trudeau - I think he's a stuffed shirt. But he's not actually malevolent like PP. But (a) the economy just hasn't been the disaster that people here are claiming and (b) the main issues are non-governmental anyway.

[dammage79]

That a metric poop ton of overspending. Yikes.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Well Trudeau certainly doesn't look like he's resigning. Rosemary Barton called the whole ceremony extremely odd.

He wouldn't resign this quickly as a kneejerk to Freeland. People who think it works that way are silly.

Most likley he resigns in about a week, leadership convention happens in the spring, with an October election. I don't see why the Liberals would rush into one versus giving the new leader as much time as possible to regain ground.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Email Pierre and tell him to make a deal with jagmeet that he’ll maintain some level of pharma/dental care and slightly moderate his parties’ labour policies if he supports a non confidence vote. Otherwise we’re waiting another $40B+in debt I mean year.

Oh I see....so Singh needs something promised to him before doing the right thing? The right thing being that Trudeau must go and go now. The right thing that he came out and flatly stated about 4 hours ago?

“Instead of dealing with issues that are important to Canadians, (Trudeau is) dealing with fighting in his own party,” Singh said in French. “It's clear the PM cannot continue — will he resign today, yes or no?”

That guy needs an incentive to follow through on what he "believes"?

What kind of a leader is that?

[Azure]

"All options are on the table."

Except the option of actually doing something.

[Ozy_Flame]

According to Trevor Tombe regarding the overspending:

~75% due to contingent liabilities related to Indigenous rulings/awards; rest due to lower tax revenues.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Oh I see....so Singh needs something promised to him before doing the right thing? The right thing being that Trudeau must go and go now. The right thing that he came out and flatly stated about 4 hours ago?





That guy needs an incentive to follow through on what he "believes"?

What kind of a leader is that?

Yeah what kind of leader would talk about something like it’s a huge issue and then not take the necessary steps to address that issue or even to ensure he’s informed on that issue.

Doesn’t sound like anyone else.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Weren’t you just arguing that small businesses finding alternative solutions was bad for Canada Post? Now those alternative solutions are bad for small businesses?

Never said they were bad for small business.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

According to Trevor Tombe regarding the overspending:

~75% due to contingent liabilities related to Indigenous rulings/awards; rest due to lower tax revenues.

Facts? Ew dude. Go away.

[Locke]

The fun part is that the numbers in the budget are always a lie so the $62B probably is too.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Holy shyattie 61 billion,



they'll shuffle all the blame to Freeland.



The Trudeau truck blew over the guard rail tumbled down the cliff on fire hitting every rock and tree on the way down, before exploding in a lake full of sharks.

Meh it’s the cost of a scaled down data centre.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Facts? Ew dude. Go away.

Modern political discourse - come for the inflammatories, stay for the suppositories.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Azure

Yeah but that PP guy. He's such a ######bag. Didn't ya know.

You know, it is possible to dislike PP and JT at the same time. Saying something negative about PP isn't automatically an endorsement of JT.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Email Pierre and tell him to make a deal with jagmeet that he’ll maintain some level of pharma/dental care and slightly moderate his parties’ labour policies if he supports a non confidence vote. Otherwise we’re waiting another $40B+in debt I mean year.

As someone who is clearly very pro-organized labour, don't sit here and tell me that NDP Jagmeet is someone who is in the same boat as you. Members of the NDP, NDP voters, NDP friendly union leaders may actually be concerned with labour policies. Jagmeet cares about those policies about as much as he cares about the lint in his laundry or a bottle cap at a bottle depot, which is to say not really.

The guy has had so many breakaways on an empty net in order to score that it's not even funny. You have been debating plenty of posters over the years where Trudeau rolled over the NDP in the type of policies you have advocated for. Trudeau has played the NDP like a fiddle up until now and all of a sudden today is the day that Jaqmeet should do something?

[Manhattanboy]

We need a PET fuddle duddle GIF.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

There are pains with any strike, water is wet. But if you want to continue vilifying working class Canadians whenever the opportunity presents itself because you don’t like unions that’s up to you.

You defend unions everytime the opportunity presents itself. Glad that you like them.

My apologies for speaking about against unions when I see a problem.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its going to take a long time to fix this mess.

This federal government is basically setting up the next government with an economic #### sandwich that'll take a decade at least to start to fix.

"Oh we're gonna get voted out eh? Let's drag this out as long as we can and grab everything that isn't tied down as we leave. Even the ####ing lightbulbs."

In 2026:

"Oh, look this new government hasn't fixed all the #### we destroyed over the course of a decade! OMG, they're terrible, now vote us back in so we can do it again."

[transplant99]

John Manley stating just now..."Trudeau is strongly motivated to still be PM when Canada hosts the G7 summit in the spring".

JT aint goin anywhere on his own.

The ball is now in Jagmeets court if he really believes what he has been spewing today.