Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Too much spiked eggnog last night?

I don't even know what to comment there After a full 2 days of unapologetic defending of union actions you seem to have gone off the deep end and argued against whoever dared question the impacts of the strike to Canadians. And now you are trying to backtrack pretending to be objective on the matter.

We were debating salary comparisons of their demands and whether Christmas being ruined was a hyperbolic statement. I don’t really see that as a defence of the Union’s actions, at the end of the day there are 2 parties involved in creating the dispute.

If only you held the posters continually making the false statements that I’m generally responding to to the same standard perhaps you’d earn a little credibility.

Edit: also, you can never have enough spiked eggnog

Ok.

This might be one of the better rebuttals you’ve ever posted on here. If for no other reason than its neutral nature didn’t allow you to dig yourself into a deeper hole. Well done firebot, go ask for a raise.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by chemgear

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fal...deau-1.7411825

Federal deficit balloons to $61.9B as government tables economic update on chaotic day in Ottawa

The federal government has blown past that benchmark; Monday's update posts a deficit of nearly $62 billion for last fiscal year.

Good lord. $62bn when it was supposed to be $40bn is pathetic. And how much value can you put into the $48bn projection for 2024-2025?

[shotinthebacklund]

House speaker Furgus is pulling some offside crap and limiting debate. so much for non partisan.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

The government's long-anticipated fall economic statement, tabled Monday, also pledges $1.3 billion for a border security package over six years — part of Ottawa's plan to fend off U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's threat of steep tariffs — although the 270-page document doesn't explain exactly how that money will be spent.

As expected, the document includes the government's promised GST holiday, which came into effect Saturday and is expected to cost $1.6 billion.

The document does not include the government's promise to send $250 cheques to working Canadians.

The federal government says that's due to one-time costs, including $16.4 billion related to Indigenous claims playing out in court and $4.7 billion related to the COVID-19 pandemic. The document doesn't say which claims the government is paying out.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fal...deau-1.7411825

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I meant I can judge him as a PM and his policies/governing if and when he get's elected. Being #1 is radically different than being a #2. This goes for politics, business, sports and more.

Pierre will need to change specific things about himself and his government in waiting if he wants to have staying power, I hope he does.

Until such time, we can judge him and the NDP leader on their leadership qualities as opposition leaders.

I will respectfully disagree about the carbon tax.

You sound like one of those people who assumed Trump would mellow once he got in. And are saying it again: "he won't really apply tariffs - that would be so dumb".

[Azure]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its amazing that JT has taken the LPC from a majority to 2 minorities to very possibly finishing 4th in the next election.

8 ministers resigning within a 6 month period.

PP, Singh and now Blanchette all calling for a resignation.

At least 3 caucus members publicly saying he has to go....just today.

The narcissism required to ignore all that is something of legend.

Yeah but that PP guy. He's such a ######bag. Didn't ya know.

[Ashasx]

Liberal MP Wayne Long saying on CBC that he would classify one-third of Liberals MPs as asking the PM to step down immediately.

I don't see how Trudeau doesn't re-sign.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Pierre will need to change specific things about himself and his government in waiting if he wants to have staying power, I hope he does.

Had he meaningfully shifted some of his parties’ policies a year or two ago he probably would have gotten the support needed to get an early election.

[Azure]

Why don't they vote to bring down the government then?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fal...deau-1.7411825

The federal government says that's due to one-time costs, including $16.4 billion related to Indigenous claims playing out in court and $4.7 billion related to the COVID-19 pandemic. The document doesn't say which claims the government is paying out.

The Randy and Randy Liberal MP back pocket claims right?

[Azure]

I mean, why didn't they allocate $5 billion to border security. What does it even matter at this point? Just ask Paulie Walnuts.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1868768454032969849

[CaptainCrunch]

Holy shyattie 61 billion,



they'll shuffle all the blame to Freeland.



The Trudeau truck blew over the guard rail tumbled down the cliff on fire hitting every rock and tree on the way down, before exploding in a lake full of sharks.

[transplant99]

That 21 or 22 Billion dollar miss....occurred in a 6 month time frame.

Yeah.....we need an election.... yesterday......... to stop that kind of insanity.

[Azure]

It could just as easily be a $40b miss by the time its actually all said and done.

Liberal voters must be so proud.

Maybe not call people racist when they question bad government policy?

[Ryan Coke]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You sound like one of those people who assumed Trump would mellow once he got in. And are saying it again: "he won't really apply tariffs - that would be so dumb".

It seems funny that you continue to bend over backwards to defend a guy who is currently and actively mismanaging things, due to concerns that the guy on the other team that you don’t like ‘might’ do those things when he is in power.

If PP is missing his fiscal guardrails so egregiously as is happening now, I have no doubt you will be justifiably raking him over the coals. But it is sad to watch anyone with such blatant partisanship unable to even be aware of their own double standard.

[puffnstuff]

So Axing a Tax has consequences? Huh...who knew?

[CaptainCrunch]

Its going to take a long time to fix this mess.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fal...deau-1.7411825

$16B in court pay outs does bring the actual spending number back to $45B which is the ballpark they've been saying all along.

Of course, why didn't that ballpark consist of these costs earlier?

[Ashasx]

Well Trudeau certainly doesn't look like he's resigning. Rosemary Barton called the whole ceremony extremely odd.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by belsarius

$16B in court pay outs does bring the actual spending number back to $45B which is the ballpark they've been saying all along.

Of course, why didn't that ballpark consist of these costs earlier?

16Billion in court losses is a insane number. I believe there is roughly 1.1 Million first nations peoples in Canada.