2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

He's playing center on the 4 nations team and is having a pretty good season with 26 points in 30 games.

$8M is probably a bit high but I could see some team overpaying him to the tune of $7-$7.5M without it being too much of a stretch.

Bennet plays a style of play that ends careers early. Any one that signs him for 7 years will be sorry pretty quickly.

If Calgary signs him, he'll be in tatters prior to them even sniffing playoff hockey.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's not the wrong decision for Buffalo...except I think they should be looking to make a big trade to add a piece without removing from the roster.

Sabres have a ton of prospects and a lot of futures - that should be their currency. Not roster players.

They need to try to add to the core, not just try to shuffle deck chairs in like for like trades.

Their 1st, 2nd, Rosen, Ostlund, Kulich, etc... those are the pieces Buffalo should be looking to move to try to get either a top 6 forward or RH dman that helps them more immediately.

While I agree with you, have to think that they are on a lot of players ntc list. They definitely need some veteran leadership on the team.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Sammy come back, you can put the blame on Tre.

Can't really rag on him after he beat the Oilers last year..... butttttt holy crap was he ever a bad Flame!

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Can't really rag on him after he beat the Oilers last year..... butttttt holy crap was he ever a bad Flame!

I think he was the best playoff performer for the team his last 2 years here.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

A goalie. They need a goalie.
These teams that are allowing bad tending to undermine their re-build boggle my mind.

Ukko Pekka Luukkonen seems to have average stats. That should be enough to get them wins. He is 8-9 looks like it's the other 2 who have crapped the bed.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

It's no secret that I want us to grab Kakko. I just feel like he's needing the right place to pop. For those who thinks he's a slow skater, he really isn't, he just plays with a slower pace. I'd call him a floater before I called him slow.

How does a slow pace differ from skating slowly? I don't see a fast skater in any of those videos, just a player who got open for breakaways, which were dependent on context.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I find it a little hard to believe Pospisil is in the 99th percentile (though he's certainly got speed) and Coleman (unless he's slowed greatly this year) is in the 20th.

I don't know how NHL EDGE measures the data - by sensor or video analysis? - but I'm going to guess it is more objective than our eye tests.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

That said, there are 12 forwards on a lineup and therefore having 5 above the 50th percentile seems fairly middle of the pack, no?

The mean is 35th percentile, though; 8 skaters above that and 8 below. Which includes these season-long regulars in the lower group:

K. Rooney 21.76. 35
Y. Sharangovich 21.63, 35
N. Kadri 21.59. 30
J. Huberdeau 21.52. 25
B. Coleman 21.23. 20
A. Kuzmenko 20.35. 5

6 regular forwards in the ~lower 3rd of the league in top speed.

[Ped]

Levi has been terrible, but Reimer's only has played 3 games (and has better stats than Vladar).

So many people under-performing. Quinn just 1 goal before last night. Cozens got off to a terrible start. Benson and Krebs haven't progressed this year They gave up a 2nd for a 4th-liner with 2 goals (Malenstyn). Kulich only 4 goals in 21 games. Samuelsson just 2 points. Jokiharju just 3 points. Lafferty just 1 goal in 22 games.

Dennis Gilbert has played 10 games, which is a good indication of how bad it is.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

A goalie. They need a goalie.
These teams that are allowing bad tending to undermine their re-build boggle my mind.

UPL has a .903 this season and has a .910 last season.

And his 5v5 numbers are great (.920, 4.14 GSAA), but the Sabres have been bad on the PK (he's .840 and he's only -0.98 GSAA on the PK).

Sabres have the 8th worst xGA/60 at 5v5 and rank 22nd OV with a 48.4% xGF at 5v5.

They need two things IMO:

- A veteran top 4 RH dman to pair with their young defensive core of LH shots (Power, Dahlin, Byram, Samuelsson are all U-25 LH shots)

- A strong 200 ft winger that helps drive play to put on Cozens wing

TBH Coleman and Andersson would probably make that team a really strong team in the East and a tough out.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Ukko Pekka Luukkonen seems to have average stats. That should be enough to get them wins. He is 8-9 looks like it's the other 2 who have crapped the bed.

UPL has given up 18 goals in his last 5 starts....not winning one of them.

Not sure he is currently the guy to help lead them from the darkness...trouble is Im not sure that guy even exists.

[NewFan]

I hope Conroy follow his last years plan and help the other teams to beat Oilers in the Playoffs.
So Coleman to Dallas, Kadri to Colorado, Andersson to LV or Winnipeg and Vladar to LA, VAN or somewhere. And Huberdeau 50% retained to FLA for a cap dump.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by transplant99

UPL has given up 18 goals in his last 5 starts....not winning one of them.

Not sure he is currently the guy to help lead them from the darkness...trouble is Im not sure that guy even exists.

It's not a coincidence that the last 6.5 games of this slide coincide with Dahlin being injured. (Prior to Dahlin injury UPL had a .909 and was not the issue at all).

Power and Byram are not ready to should the actual defensive burden and are still pretty one dimensional.

Power - Samuelsson
Byram - Jokiharju
Gilbert - Bryson

That's been their d-core the last 6 games 3.88 xGA per 60 in that time (!!!! that's abysmal) and averaging an actual GAA of 4.07 GA/60 in that time.

UPL has a .888 save percentage in 4 of those games but has allowed 13 goals on 12 xGA.

The team defense is abysmal with Dahlin out.

[JTech780]

UPL's 5v5 Save % of .914 is ahead of Markstrom, Swayman, Hill, Binnington, Saros, Shesterkin, Bobrovsky and Vladar.

Meanwhile Buffalo gives up the 9th most 5v5 Shots Against per game, the 7th most Scoring Chances per game and the 8th most High Danger Chances per game.

Buffalo has defense and coaching issues. They have a very good goalie in UPL.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

UPL has a .903 this season and has a .910 last season.

And his 5v5 numbers are great (.920, 4.14 GSAA), but the Sabres have been bad on the PK (he's .840 and he's only -0.98 GSAA on the PK).

Sabres have the 8th worst xGA/60 at 5v5 and rank 22nd OV with a 48.4% xGF at 5v5.

They need two things IMO:

- A veteran top 4 RH dman to pair with their young defensive core of LH shots (Power, Dahlin, Byram, Samuelsson are all U-25 LH shots)

- A strong 200 ft winger that helps drive play to put on Cozens wing

TBH Coleman and Andersson would probably make that team a really strong team in the East and a tough out.

Would really want Buffalo to include Helenius in a trade like that. He’s probably the one they don’t want to give up because he’s the most likely prospect to develop into a center. But that’s what Calgary needs and that should be the price if they wanted to make a trade for Andersson IMO.

[Enoch Root]

Regarding those speed stats - are they averages, or top-end numbers?

If they are averages, they would be strongly influenced by style of play. I would rather see top-end numbers

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by JTech780

UPL's 5v5 Save % of .914 is ahead of Markstrom, Swayman, Hill, Binnington, Saros, Shesterkin, Bobrovsky and Vladar.

Meanwhile Buffalo gives up the 9th most 5v5 Shots Against per game, the 7th most Scoring Chances per game and the 8th most High Danger Chances per game.

Buffalo has defense and coaching issues. They have a very good goalie in UPL.

Isn't this what happened in New Jersey with Ruff last year? Neutered the offence, and they couldn't get a save.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

$8M for Bennet in free agency?

Probably not. But I expect someone will get him for $7 mil x 6 years.

[Robbob]

Buffalo is also an example of what happens when you go scorched earth. Been decades since anyone has won anything there. It is a losing culture.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by NewFan

And Huberdeau 50% retained to FLA for a cap dump.

I thought you wanted teams to beat the Oilers?

[dammage79]

I don't think Kevyn Adams is a very good GM.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/travis-yost-d...loat-1.2221053

Speaking of goaltending. Front page on TSN on how Wolf is keeping the Flames in a playoff chase pretty much single handedly.