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Old 12-16-2024, 12:11 PM   #4541
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Here is a ranking of the Flames' forwards top speed and league percentile using NHL's EDGE stats. I included some non-Flames for reference. For any stats under the 50th percentile, I had to estimate the actual percentage from the graph. Some notes:
  • Only 5 forwards are at the 50th percentile or above.
  • Kakko would be the 3rd slowest forward on the Flames roster. (Klapka's number might be hindered by a small sample size, Pelletier's too).
M. Pospisil 24.06, 99
R. Lomberg 22.77, 84
M. Coronata 22.56, 77
W. Duehr 22.34, 67
C. Zary 22.01, 50
J. Kirkland 21.84. 45
M. Backlund 21.85, 40
K. Rooney 21.76. 35
Y. Sharangovich 21.63, 35
N. Kadri 21.59. 30
J. Huberdeau 21.52. 25
S. Honzek 21.32. 25
B. Coleman 21.23. 20
J. Pelletier 21.13. 15
K. Kakko 21.09. 15
A. Klapka 21.07. 15
A. Kuzmenko 20.35. 5


C. McDavid 23.85. 99
J. Norris 23.76. 98
N. MacKinnon 23.16. 95
M. Rossi 22.81. 85
R. Greig 22.55. 77
D. Cozens 22.21. 61
S. Pinto 22.06. 52
M. McTavish 21.49. 30
we need to get him so we can ice the Slow as Ass KKK line.
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:13 PM   #4542
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It's no secret that I want us to grab Kakko. I just feel like he's needing the right place to pop. For those who thinks he's a slow skater, he really isn't, he just plays with a slower pace. I'd call him a floater before I called him slow.







Didn't score but burned past Walker.


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Old 12-16-2024, 12:13 PM   #4543
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Elias Pettersson
26 points in 29 games - makes 11.6 mill AAV
6 points in 13 playoff games last year

Mason Marchment
27 points in 28 games - makes 4.5 mill AAV
5 points in 13 playoff games last year
Signed on the open market as a UFA


Maybe Pettersson isn't that cap efficient
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:14 PM   #4544
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To play devils advocate he only played well in the playoffs when there was less pressure and no fans in the stands.

I think it would be a pretty bad trade for Vancouver though as I like what Pettersson brings to the table and am not that high on Byram so the drop off from Pettersson to Cozens is not worth it.

Pettersson must have a NMC so doubt he waives for Buffalo less than a year into his monster 8 year contract
If the Canucks do decide to be idiotic and dump Pettersson this is the year to do it. His NMC doesn’t kick in till next year.
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Yeah because what they need is MORE organizational instability.

Buffalo has the 5th lowest payroll in the league. Adams has been building the team (with this being his 4th season), including a bottoming out drafting 1st Overall after Season 1 (in Draft #2 for him).

The Sabres situation is only dire if you look a larger window of time than you actually should be looking at.

They have some structural issues (no #1 centre, because the organization poisoned their relationship with the one they had). They're on pace to draft Top-5, and that's exactly what they need at this stage. After they draft another centre, then they can go get aggressive about their immediate needs.

The most Buffalo Sabres thing they could do right now is panic prematurely. The owner should be going to Montreal to help tell the players that they're all in this together, and they're building something. Everything else is just useless noise.
They should have never hired Ruff to begin with. Terrible hire.
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:34 PM   #4546
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Buffalo and the Rangers are both going to be making trades and firings before Xmas. Their situations are wild.
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:36 PM   #4547
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Here is a ranking of the Flames' forwards top speed and league percentile using NHL's EDGE stats. I included some non-Flames for reference. For any stats under the 50th percentile, I had to estimate the actual percentage from the graph. Some notes:
  • Only 5 forwards are at the 50th percentile or above.
  • Kakko would be the 3rd slowest forward on the Flames roster. (Klapka's number might be hindered by a small sample size, Pelletier's too).
M. Pospisil 24.06, 99
R. Lomberg 22.77, 84
M. Coronata 22.56, 77
W. Duehr 22.34, 67
C. Zary 22.01, 50
J. Kirkland 21.84. 45
M. Backlund 21.85, 40
K. Rooney 21.76. 35
Y. Sharangovich 21.63, 35
N. Kadri 21.59. 30
J. Huberdeau 21.52. 25
S. Honzek 21.32. 25
B. Coleman 21.23. 20
J. Pelletier 21.13. 15
K. Kakko 21.09. 15
A. Klapka 21.07. 15
A. Kuzmenko 20.35. 5

C. McDavid 23.85. 99
J. Norris 23.76. 98
N. MacKinnon 23.16. 95
M. Rossi 22.81. 85
R. Greig 22.55. 77
D. Cozens 22.21. 61
S. Pinto 22.06. 52
M. McTavish 21.49. 30
I find it a little hard to believe Pospisil is in the 99th percentile (though he's certainly got speed) and Coleman (unless he's slowed greatly this year) is in the 20th.

That said, there are 12 forwards on a lineup and therefore having 5 above the 50th percentile seems fairly middle of the pack, no?
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They should have never hired Ruff to begin with. Terrible hire.
Rhett was speculating today that it wasn't an Adams hire too.
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Buffalo and the Rangers are both going to be making trades and firings before Xmas. Their situations are wild.
I want Kakko, Schneider, Cozens and Byram.

I got Kadri, Coleman, Andersson, Pospisil, and ability to retain salaries.

Also, Francis on targeting Samwise:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1868738614940909818

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If the Canucks do decide to be idiotic and dump Pettersson this is the year to do it. His NMC doesn’t kick in till next year.
IDK that contract does not look good at all
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Buffalo and the Rangers are both going to be making trades and firings before Xmas. Their situations are wild.
What's another year out of the playoffs?
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Yeah because what they need is MORE organizational instability.

Buffalo has the 5th lowest payroll in the league. Adams has been building the team (with this being his 4th season), including a bottoming out drafting 1st Overall after Season 1 (in Draft #2 for him).

The Sabres situation is only dire if you look a larger window of time than you actually should be looking at.

They have some structural issues (no #1 centre, because the organization poisoned their relationship with the one they had). They're on pace to draft Top-5, and that's exactly what they need at this stage. After they draft another centre, then they can go get aggressive about their immediate needs.

The most Buffalo Sabres thing they could do right now is panic prematurely. The owner should be going to Montreal to help tell the players that they're all in this together, and they're building something. Everything else is just useless noise.
And they could get an actual goalie.
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So, according to Seravalli, the owner-players meeting is finished. The answer is in the Buffalo locker room.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1868737532240052250
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Also, Francis on targeting Samwise:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1868738614940909818
Have not read the whole article TBF, but surely Francis must realize that
A) Kadri & Huberdeau are doing alright at the moment and Huberdeau is near the top of the team in points. There is no reigniting Huberdeau.
B) The style played by Huberdeau & Bennett in Florida would not be replicated here and their success there has no bearing on what or how they'd do in Calgary.
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Old 12-16-2024, 12:45 PM   #4555
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seems like clickbait by Francis
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I want Kakko, Schneider, Cozens and Byram.

I got Kadri, Coleman, Andersson, Pospisil, and ability to retain salaries.

Also, Francis on targeting Samwise:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1868738614940909818
Sam Bennett would go against everything Conroy has talked about. All the warning signs are already showing up that it will be a bad contract.

28, career year in a contract year before free agency, shooting % above his career averages.

We also need to forget about reigniting Huberdeau.
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Sam Bennett would go against everything Conroy has talked about. All the warning signs are already showing up that it will be a bad contract.

28, career year in a contract year before free agency, shooting % above his career averages.
Yeah, but when you're 18-Year Old Stanley Cup Champion Sam Bennett you can do whatever you want whenever you want. Conroy just has to take it.
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I have thought if Bennett gets to July 1 the Flames will be calling like they did with Monahan last summer. Most of the Florida roster are on team friendly deals and signed recently like Tkachuk and Reinhart. Benny might be willing to stay there for $6-6.5M but I suspect he could push for $8M if he gets to free agency. If things go poorly in Toronto this spring I can see Treliving using some of those Tavares/Larner funds to go after Bennett/Ekblad.
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