Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

If they are illegals. Deport them.

Why would you think there are any or feel the need to say that in this specific case? When truckers were blocking the borders, or people were protesting pipelines, did you feel compelled to call for the deportation of any illegals in those groups?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Why would you think there are any or feel the need to say that in this specific case? When truckers were blocking the borders, or people were protesting pipelines, did you feel compelled to call for the deportation of any illegals in those groups?

If the truckers and pipeline protesters are illegals and chanting “death to Canada”, deport them.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

So they didn't give her any warning or anything? It is the proper thing to report it. If you are an employer I would think you can get into trouble if you don't. I imagine CRA has a mechanism for eventually finding out when you are submitting remittances and things like that. But it would seem unnecessarily harsh to not at least call her in and tell her that it was going to happen.

Nope. I think HR were spooked because 6 months had passed. Wanted to deal with it fast, save their own asses. She was my employee but I'm not privy to Canadian statuses. I was told the morning of that she was gone.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

If the truckers and pipeline protesters are illegals and chanting “death to Canada”, deport them.

And why did their status in Canada become an issue?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Wormius

And why did their status in Canada become an issue?

Because they were chanting Death to Canada.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Because they were chanting Death to Canada.

Dig up.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Read the post I did to Wormius. The whole narrative and messaging including the headline was edited after I initially posted. The initial article was very blatantly Liberal slanted, all mentions of how costly the demands of the NDP were have since been removed. Someone clearly got reined in (which while good it happened, continues to show how journalists personal bias sneak in to news articles way too often, and should have never been published as it was first written). It was changed a few times as the current headline was modified at least twice (it talked of Singh when Wormius saw it and I replied).

As is right now, it's factual and wouldn't have caught my eye.

So to me that means the system is self correcting and working and should held up as an example of how the CBC has good standards.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GGG

So to me that means the system is self correcting and working and should held up as an example of how the CBC has good standards.

I mean, they could edit their content prior to publishing. I feel like publishing with bias and then editing only when you get called on it is definitely a lower standard.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I mean, they could edit their content prior to publishing. I feel like publishing with bias and then editing only when you get called on it is definitely a lower standard.

We don’t know the mechanism of why it was edited.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GGG

We don’t know the mechanism of why it was edited.

Fair enough - it could be a coincidence that they independently edited it after they got called out for bias, although that seems unlikely to me.

The timing, however, seems irrefutable. Editing before publishing is one of the choices available to them, and they didn't.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Fair enough - it could be a coincidence that they independently edited it after they got called out for bias, although that seems unlikely to me.

The timing, however, seems irrefutable. Editing before publishing is one of the choices available to them, and they didn't.

I wonder how much the rush to publish affects workflows and how much scrutiny there is before the button hits. It’s unlikely that people who criticize the CBC editorial process want to fund a more robust editorial process.

I also think it’s unlikely that they kowtowed to pressure that hadn’t really hit the media.

So in my opinion this is this was brought to CBCs attention either internally or externally. It didn’t meet their journalistic standards and they fixed it. Essentially no intent.

So if that’s the case then the system as currently funded worked and isn’t really different then what we see from other news media in terms of releasing and editing as things progress.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GGG

I wonder how much the rush to publish affects workflows and how much scrutiny there is before the button hits. It’s unlikely that people who criticize the CBC editorial process want to fund a more robust editorial process.

Agreed that the rush to publish is responsible for more of this sort of thing getting through.

Still, is anyone shocked that the CBC staffers who produced the piece had a bias against the Conservatives in the first place? I doubt editorial oversite at the CBC is needed to catch pro-Conservative pieces from getting to air. You don’t need to be buy into conservative ravings about the Liberals using the CBC as a propaganda platform to acknowledge that CBC staffers likely vote Conservative at much lower rates than the population at large.

Having said all that, CBC still provides top-notch journalism. About That with Andrew Chang is the best content being produced by any news media in the country, and should be used by journalism schools as an exemplar of how to present complex public policy issues in a fair-minded and accessible way.

[ThePrince]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/real...rise-1.7127807

OTTAWA - The Canadian economy shrank on a per-person basis for a sixth consecutive quarter as higher interest rates continued to weigh on business investment.

Nothing much to see here, just more Conservative “pablum”, why would anyone care about the continued erosion of Canada’s economy? You couldn’t possibly put any blame on the current administration since the economy is just too complicated for us plebs to understand.

Friday's report said higher household and government spending was partly offset by slower inventory accumulation, lower business capital investment and lower exports.

How could you possibly expect that when you put in place policies that hurt businesses and export industries, that it would hurt businesses and export industries? But it’s ok, if you cancel that out with increased taxes and government spending, the economy is fine. Especially since this government has proven to be very fiscally prudent with taxpayer dollars. Canadians get a lot of value when the government spends more money.

[Slava]

Apparently Trudeau has landed in Florida to meet with Trump. Hopefully he gets some assurances that the tariffs aren’t going to happen.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Slava

Apparently Trudeau has landed in Florida to meet with Trump. Hopefully he gets some assurances that the tariffs aren’t going to happen.

Yeah...because rational Political negotiations are what Florida is notorious for.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah...because rational Political negotiations are what Florida is notorious for.

Well, he might get laughed out of the room? But then again, it’s also just bluster by Trump. Trudeau says “hey, we’re cracking down on things”, Trump claims victory and its business as usual.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Slava

Apparently Trudeau has landed in Florida to meet with Trump. Hopefully he gets some assurances that the tariffs aren’t going to happen.

You didn't specify which Trump he is meeting with...he's not taken anymore!

Spoiler!

[MegaErtz]

Canada has been getting a free ride for far too long. The American taxpayer has been heavily subsidizing Canada's safety and security for decades. Time to pay up.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Canada has been getting a free ride for far too long. The American taxpayer has been heavily subsidizing Canada's safety and security for decades. Time to pay up.

Canadas not exactly the target of as many threats as the US is. I take Canada as just being the beneficiary of America protecting itself.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Canada has been getting a free ride for far too long. The American taxpayer has been heavily subsidizing Canada's safety and security for decades. Time to pay up.

Not pissing off the world, generally, has positive correlations with not needing to spend as much money protecting the nation.