2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would put the chances the Flames let Noah and Tanev walk for nothing at almost zero.

Yup. They are either signing extensions or being traded

[Groot]

I'm confident that the Flames will deal Tanev and Hanifin (Markstrom will stay) it will create a big gap on the backend but others will step-up enough for us to sneak into a WC spot.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Use Hanifin's performance surge (in a contract year) to maximize return. Get the most you can and move forward. The player has turned down a more than reasonable offer for what he is, don't allow a short spurt of over-performance to cloud your judgement. Get a good return and be happy. The same goes for Tanev, Markstrom, and any other player who doesn't fit in long-term.

That is why the comment of overplaying one's hand. Have a plan and execute. Yes, plans need to be malleable, but not to the point of causing them to fail. Understand where your commodities fit into the larger plan and recognize when it is time to move them. When you have an over-performing asset like Hanifin and Markstrom, who will not be here for your planned 2027 debutant ball, move them and get the assets that will move the team forward. Getting a possible future core player out of a Markstrom trade is one that should be leveraged. Don't overplay it by asking for more when you get that possible core piece. If the Flames could turn Markstrom into just Holtz or Mercer (most likely Holtz) that is a core piece for the next six to ten years for a player that will be long out of the game ion the same window. That's a huge win. Turning Hanifin and Tanev into assets that fill gaps is just as important and can't be overplayed like some are suggesting (taking it to the wire to possibly squeeze teams). This will be a transformative trade deadline for the team one way or another. This can't be screwed up.

You honestly think Conroy or anyone in the management group would find the above to be something they haven't thought of?

They are managing the pressure points of what that market is ... is it evolving into less of a seller's market? Are there less sellers now than they envisioned?

At some point they probably have plotted out when they will reduce their asking price for their assets based on how many players they have left to move, and the proximity to the deadline.

Any time you are buying or selling something you reach the point where you move your price for fear of not getting it done. I would hope that they have that all mapped out and they're not driven by panic or emotion.

So far we have no reason to believe that isn't true.

They are playing their hand. They did extremely well with Lindholm with the same principles.

I don't see any evidence that they are overplaying anything.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by browna

There's no other real rumors to talk about, which is why the Markstrom thing still has legs. One team, a few weeks ago, made an inquiry, and that got out (when it shouldn't have been made public, clearly, but some agents and media can't help themselves).

Price wasnt met, player wasn't approached to waive NTC, and now that team has floundered and is further away than the Flames are from making the playoffs now.

For NJ that trade to happen two weeks ago. It didn't.

Why are you so confident of this?

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by browna

There's no other real rumors to talk about, which is why the Markstrom thing still has legs. One team, a few weeks ago, made an inquiry, and that got out (when it shouldn't have been made public, clearly, but some agents and media can't help themselves).

Price wasnt met, player wasn't approached to waive NTC, and now that team has floundered and is further away than the Flames are from making the playoffs now.

For NJ that trade to happen two weeks ago. It didn't.

100% agree. We need to wait for something to come up with a Hanafin trade to get excited about. Tanev too but that will be much less return.

[konradical]

I wonder if Hanifin (extended) for Lundell would be a possible deal for the Panthers.

[V1nnyTh3Flam35Fan]

Trade Hanifin to Tampa Bay for Tanner Jeannot, Ethan Gauthier, conditional 1st round pick 2026 and 3rd round pick 2024
Condition: 2026 1st round pick is top 10 protected, Tampa will instead transfer the 2027 1st round pick to Calgary if 2026 pick is in top 10.

Trade Chris Tanev (50% RS) to Toronto for Simon Benoit, William Villanueve, and 1st round pick 2024

Roster after trades:
Huberdeau/Sharangovich/Jeannot
Zary/Kadri/Pospisil
Mangiapane/Backlund/Coleman
Pelletier/Rooney/Kuzmenko

Weegar/Andersson
Kylington/Pachal
Benoit/Oesterle

Markstrom/Vladar

Scratches: Greer/Hunt/Gilbert

Wait until off-season to trade Markstrom

[ForeverFlameFan]

Nah, if TB wants to send us a pick 2 years from now then they can send it unprotected. You want “now” results, then you get to pay at the expense of future asset(s) without conditions.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by V1nnyTh3Flam35Fan

Trade Hanifin to Tampa Bay for Tanner Jeannot, Ethan Gauthier, conditional 1st round pick 2026 and 3rd round pick 2024
Condition: 2026 1st round pick is top 10 protected, Tampa will instead transfer the 2027 1st round pick to Calgary if 2026 pick is in top 10.

Trade Chris Tanev (50% RS) to Toronto for Simon Benoit, William Villanueve, and 1st round pick 2024

Roster after trades:
Huberdeau/Sharangovich/Jeannot
Zary/Kadri/Pospisil
Mangiapane/Backlund/Coleman
Pelletier/Rooney/Kuzmenko

Weegar/Andersson
Kylington/Pachal
Benoit/Oesterle

Markstrom/Vladar

Scratches: Greer/Hunt/Gilbert

Wait until off-season to trade Markstrom

Those look pretty good to me.

[genetic_phreek]

Gotta think any trade with NJ is dead after today.

For me the interesting trade partner for Hanifin would be with Detroit. IMO Markstrom is going nowhere.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Gotta think any trade with NJ is dead after today.

For me the interesting trade partner for Hanifin would be with Detroit. IMO Markstrom is going nowhere.

Yep dead as the Dodo

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Gotta think any trade with NJ is dead after today.

For me the interesting trade partner for Hanifin would be with Detroit. IMO Markstrom is going nowhere.

Fitzgerald is an incredibly mediocre GM. Blowing a window to be competitive with that young core is on par with what Edmonton’s management has accomplished. Zero goalies available on the UFA market this year so unless he trades for one he has to roll the same terrible goalies next year. Impressive to watch.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Gotta think any trade with NJ is dead after today.

For me the interesting trade partner for Hanifin would be with Detroit. IMO Markstrom is going nowhere.

I would think if NJ trades for a goalie, that addressed an area of weakness.

Its more a plan, not a short term fix

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Fitzgerald is an incredibly mediocre GM. Blowing a window to be competitive with that young core is on par with what Edmonton’s management has accomplished. Zero goalies available on the UFA market this year so unless he trades for one he has to roll the same terrible goalies next year. Impressive to watch.

Now we know why Fitz was nervous.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Fitzgerald is an incredibly mediocre GM. Blowing a window to be competitive with that young core is on par with what Edmonton’s management has accomplished. Zero goalies available on the UFA market this year so unless he trades for one he has to roll the same terrible goalies next year. Impressive to watch.

Ullmark being available in the summer concerns me

[Tuco]

Coleman is the guy that needs to go ASAP. He's playing lights out and is exactly what team looking to make a deep run needs.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by flambers

I would think if NJ trades for a goalie, that addressed an area of weakness.

Its more a plan, not a short term fix

That can be done in the summer, Devils are done imo.

[Flamesfan05]

Yeah no need for NJ to overspend now
They are dead…

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by neo45

Ullmark being available in the summer concerns me

That is true. Have to suspect the ask for Ullmark is Mercer or Holtz plus maybe a pick. Doubt the Bruins are trading him for futures, they will want a player who can play now.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by V1nnyTh3Flam35Fan

Trade Hanifin to Tampa Bay for Tanner Jeannot, Ethan Gauthier, conditional 1st round pick 2026 and 3rd round pick 2024
Condition: 2026 1st round pick is top 10 protected, Tampa will instead transfer the 2027 1st round pick to Calgary if 2026 pick is in top 10.

Tampa definitely isn't using Jeannot as a throw in after nearly paying a whole draft class for him last year