2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I can barely even imagine Markstrom being traded because it's just so out of character for the Flames to trade a player while their value is at a high. Especially if it's at the expenses of current on-ice success.

But I still hope it gets done. If it does get done, I'll have a ton of respect for Conroy. A huge differentiation from Treliving.

Yeah, that was the main reason I wanted to see Markstrom traded. It would be the first time I can remember them trading a guy with term and contributing to success on the ice. Hopefully they still trade him in the offseason even if the return is less.

[Heavy Jack]

With Sec saying NJ has circled back and that the deal if it were to get done is complex has my thinking it could be Hanifin + Markstrom package to NJ.

Couple players that could be retained on, an extension to work out so definitely some complexities there.

To NJ
Hanifin 50 percent retained and 8 x 7.5 extension signed
Markstrom 30 percent retained
Rooney

To Calgary
24 1st - top 10 protected, slides to 25 1st if top 10
25 2nd
Mercer
Holtz
Bahl

[Toonage]

I may be reading too much into this but I think with Sec's update last night and Friedman casually bringing up the idea of Lundell and a sign and trade, this might be what actually happens. They still think Boston and a sign and trade is possible, but its "what goes the other way" (my wording) and like we all think, or some of us think I should say, a lot of these teams don't have much to send back that the Flames would really want package wise

[Badgers Nose]

I’m glad Flames slapped Fritz for leaking.

It’s been years since I was this confident in my GM. Like Cliff Fletcher era.

[Funkhouser]

After last night, I prefer Lohrei (a potential 2-3 D-man) over Lundell.

Hanifin for Lohrei and a 2025 1st. Make it happen!


Next year we have a D core of:
Kylington - Anderson
Lohrei - Weegar
Soloyov/Poirier - Pachal/UFA
Pachal/UFA

[Badgers Nose]

Right now I think Pachal is cementing himself in the top six. Seems like a very solid 3rd pair guy. It’s going to take a hell of a camp for one of the kids to supplant him.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With CP widely regarded unofficially as the best team forum in the league I think Sec knows exactly what he’s doing here. Takes two to tango and I’m sure the message will be received as media heads tend to talk. Conroy is a new look that we aren’t quite used to, I love his style though.

[Heavy Jack]

Meant every bit of that too Bingo, not just flames fans are lucky to call this place their hockey discussion home. I love CP

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Right now I think Pachal is cementing himself in the top six. Seems like a very solid 3rd pair guy. It’s going to take a hell of a camp for one of the kids to supplant him.

This was a shrewd waiver pickup. I think Vegas fans weren't too happy about losing this guy.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Meant every bit of that too Bingo, not just flames fans are lucky to call this place their hockey discussion home. I love CP

Yeah, too bad young people don't use forums lol. Bingo jr has to start recruiting

[JBR]

My sources tell me the NJ deal is dead, as Murray booked travel for Marky's family with Lynx Air... and now he awaits a seat sale.

[Heavy Jack]

I wonder once all the dust settles on the pending trades, especially Tanev/Hanifin, if the flames look at Ty Smith in Pittsburgh who is reportedly very frustrated with the lack of opportunity he’s had since the Marino trade swap with the Devils. He looked like he was putting up respectable numbers for a young D prior to the trade and he hasn’t had much success cracking the Pens big club lineup but he hasn’t looked out of place in the Ahl. Something to consider? Sandman what’s your read on Ty Smith?

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, too bad young people don't use forums lol. Bingo jr has to start recruiting

Speaking for myself I was 21 when I finally decided to join CP and had been reading for years prior. Dammit, now I do feel old.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Still think FLA can do Lundell, Lucas Carlsson and a pick for a signed Hanifin.

For Markstrom, I'd be happy with Holtz and their 1st. Whatever they dredge up.for bonus on salary retention is gravy.

We don't need wingers, we need Cs.

Out of Hanifin, Tanev and Markstrom, we HAVE to get at least one C and preferably 2.

This isn't about how Holtz and Mercer compare as players, it's about positional need. Cs and Ds. Cs and Ds.

Holtz doesn't improve the lineup. All it does is allow us to replace Mangiapane, which means we trade Mang next year in hopes for a C. Just go straight to the C now.

[jg13]

If NJ is only offering Holtz take him and package him to Anaheim for Zegras

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

We don't need wingers, we need Cs.

Out of Hanifin, Tanev and Markstrom, we HAVE to get at least one C and preferably 2.

This isn't about how Holtz and Mercer compare as players, it's about positional need. Cs and Ds. Cs and Ds.

Holtz doesn't improve the lineup. All it does is allow us to replace Mangiapane, which means we trade Mang next year in hopes for a C. Just go straight to the C now.

Centres are way harder to get. I'd be happy if they pulled one of Poitras or Lundell but I am not holding my breath on it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Centres are way harder to get. I'd be happy if they pulled one of Poitras or Lundell but I am not holding my breath on it.

Yes, and that's why we need to leverage the current situation to get one.

You settle for a bunch of wingers, and then you wake up the morning after the trade deadline and realize you still have the same problem.

I would take less draft pick capital to secure Mercer and Lundell.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Meant every bit of that too Bingo, not just flames fans are lucky to call this place their hockey discussion home. I love CP

Heavy Jack pulling out all the stops to get that elusive premium membership.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, too bad young people don't use forums lol. Bingo jr has to start recruiting

Thanks for giving me that sweet ten minutes to marinate in some solid feed back from 25 years of work before delivering the sobering it's almost over news.

[Enoch Root]

Here's our under-25 depth chart for forwards:

Zary
Sharangovich
Coronato
Pelletier
Pospisil
Honzek
Suniev
Klapka
Stromgren
Lipinski

MAYBE Zary becomes a C. MAYBE Coronato can play C. Otherwise, Lipinski is the only C there.

You add a Holtz, and he slots in with the other 5 or 6 guys at the top of that list. But if you add Mercer and Lundell, suddenly you have 2 full middle-6 lines of NHLers, with lots of top 6 potential.

The Flames are starting to build some depth. But it is all at wing. Add two quality Cs, and suddenly everything takes shape.

Conroy has to focus on Cs at this point.