[Trade] Elias Lindholm to VAN for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond 2024 4th

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I've seen that play that starts at 0:31 of this video a few times now and it's a beauty. However, it does have a very Huberdeau-esque vibe to it.

I get that they scored on it in the end......but Im betting his coach was in his ear, and really hard, that he has to take that shot.


Ive seen a bunch of his videos in the last 24 hours, and it really is a Huberdeau-esque tendency to pass.........a lot. Has to work on that.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Pelletier should re-join the NHL team as soon as the break is over. I don't think he needs to spend a couple months with the Wranglers. Get him in. French Connection!

Zary and Sharangovich should also get long looks in the middle. Use this time to evaluate what you have and whether you need to go out and find centers in a market that has a dwindling supply.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I get that they scored on it in the end......but Im betting his coach was in his ear, and really hard, that he has to take that shot.


Ive seen a bunch of his videos in the last 24 hours, and it really is a Huberdeau-esque tendency to pass.........a lot. Has to work on that.

That's because he's playing with zero confidence.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by blankall

If the Canucks eliminate the Oilers, that's another big win for Calgary fans. Not a big Canucks fan, but I don't hate the current Canucks roster and another first round exit might be the last straw for McDavid.

Oilers will likely play Vegas in round one

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

In round 1 it's probably

EDM vs. VGK
VAN vs. LA/STL/NSH

Still very high hopes that the No Goods are done just 8-10 days into the post-season. Vegas will recoup its full strength come April.

[dino7c]

Vancouver vs. Calgary in round one...can you imagine lol

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Yeah if the D is gutted further I see them getting worse. It was scary when we were playing farm hands in the starting six for a bit there. That's just a preview of what could be soon.

Oddly enough I don't see Lindholm --> Kuzmenko affecting things too much by comparison.

If it were just Lindholm out and Kuzmenko in, I think they could get by and probably not lose ground (assuming Kuzmenko helps the PP). The problem is that the change is much more than that.

Out: Lindholm, Dube, Greer, Ruzicka
In: Kuzmenko, Pelletier, Coronato

On D...

Out: Zadorov, Tanev, maybe Hanifin
In: Kylington, Oesterle, Solovyov?

You can get away with one two missing pieces, but that is just too much to overcome, I would think.

[Jay Random]

We should have a pool on how many players who started the year with the Wranglers will finish the year on the Flames' roster.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If it were just Lindholm out and Kuzmenko in, I think they could get by and probably not lose ground (assuming Kuzmenko helps the PP). The problem is that the change is much more than that.

Out: Lindholm, Dube, Greer, Ruzicka
In: Kuzmenko, Pelletier, Coronato

On D...

Out: Zadorov, Tanev, maybe Hanifin
In: Kylington, Oesterle, Solovyov?

You can get away with one two missing pieces, but that is just too much to overcome, I would think.

I bet more NHL players are coming back though...Hanafin deal will be similar to the Lindholm deal

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

In round 1 it's probably

EDM vs. VGK
VAN vs. LA/STL/NSH

Still very high hopes that the No Goods are done just 8-10 days into the post-season. Vegas will recoup its full strength come April.

If these are the case, I hope these happen.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

how many players who started the year with the Wranglers will finish the year on the Flames' roster.

Yes.

[Roof-Daddy]

I love that Conroy has dealt three of the five key UFA's now, and he hasn't been pressured to include any picks in the deals.

5 picks in so far, and 0 picks out

2024 1st
2023 3rd
2026 3rd
2024 4th (cond. could be a 3rd)
2024 5th

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If it were just Lindholm out and Kuzmenko in, I think they could get by and probably not lose ground (assuming Kuzmenko helps the PP). The problem is that the change is much more than that.

Out: Lindholm, Dube, Greer, Ruzicka
In: Kuzmenko, Pelletier, Coronato

On D...

Out: Zadorov, Tanev, maybe Hanifin
In: Kylington, Oesterle, Solovyov?

You can get away with one two missing pieces, but that is just too much to overcome, I would think.

I think by season's end Pelletier and Coronato are clear upgrades on Dube and Ruzicka. Outside chance of Kuzmenko being more impactful than Lindholm since that bar was low.

On defense, could be a dumpster fire as soon as Tanev is dealt. Solovyov and Poirier don't have the experience yet, and we know Osterle is an adventure when used as anything more than the #6.

Hopefully Kylington is up to speed quickly. Connie might need to seek out some help with their D depth. You need players to dress at the end of the day and it's not in the Wranglers best interest to suck that roster dry of its best guys who still could use seasoning at that level.

[Braden]

Debrincat went as an RFA (new 4 year deal) for a 1st and a 4th, with 1yr of Kubalik at 2.5m and a throw in

My opinion we got a better return for Lindholm as a rental then Debrincat did with a new contract. Granted I know Kuzmenko comes with an extra year but I believe there will be more assets yet to be extracted from him.

So far so good Conroy, more picks for Tanev please

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If it were just Lindholm out and Kuzmenko in, I think they could get by and probably not lose ground (assuming Kuzmenko helps the PP). The problem is that the change is much more than that.

Out: Lindholm, Dube, Greer, Ruzicka
In: Kuzmenko, Pelletier, Coronato

On D...

Out: Zadorov, Tanev, maybe Hanifin
In: Kylington, Oesterle, Solovyov?

You can get away with one two missing pieces, but that is just too much to overcome, I would think.

Now add Markstrom to that.

I think they keep Hanifin.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Nobody should be cheering for Vancouver to far enough to meet the conditions on the 4th/3rd pick.

Everyone should be hoping for this in the scenario that the Edmonton Oilers and the Vancouver Canucks meet in the Second Round.

[sureLoss]

The Athletic has a great writeup about how the trade was negotiated and came together.

https://theathletic.com/5243090/2024...shared_article

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Pelletier and coranato should get more ice time I’m thinking with Dube and Lindholm gone and Greer out for a while.

Since they are both wingers, and Zary is much more suited to be on Kadri’s wing than to play as a 4C, Schwindt might be the best current asset in the org for the 4C role, or perhaps Rooney. Pelts will probably be added to that 4th line for the energy he brings, and they will let Coronato continue his development in the AHL. Gotta think they will try Sharky at C on a line with Huby and Kuz.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Since they are both wingers, and Zary is much more suited to be on Kadri’s wing than to play as a 4C, Schwindt might be the best current asset in the org for the 4C role. Gotta think they will try Sharky at C on a line with Huby and Kuz.

Sharky - Hub - Kuz should be what Huska tries first. This line could be elite IMO if these 2 click with Huberdeau.

I wouldn't touch the Kadri line.

I would love to see Mangiapane moved and Pelletier to take his spot. If not, I guess he can start in the 4th line but don't love that for an extended period of time.

[SilverKast]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If it were just Lindholm out and Kuzmenko in, I think they could get by and probably not lose ground (assuming Kuzmenko helps the PP). The problem is that the change is much more than that.

Out: Lindholm, Dube, Greer, Ruzicka
In: Kuzmenko, Pelletier, Coronato

On D...

Out: Zadorov, Tanev, maybe Hanifin
In: Kylington, Oesterle, Solovyov?

You can get away with one two missing pieces, but that is just too much to overcome, I would think.

Isn't that what half this board has been wishing for? Sometimes you get what you want, whether it's good or not will remain to be seen.