2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Canucks won't be moving on from Kuzmenko for two mid round picks.

Ya, more like one.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Markstrom for Campbell+McDavid+2024, 2025, 2026 1st overall picks.

You're our biggest rival. No way we're doing you a favor unless we can rape your corpse.

In all seriousness, considering Markstrom is still pretty good and Campbell is a long-term cap dump, I'm not entirely sure that my proposal is that far off. Maybe not McDavid in there, but those 3 picks at least would be required to do that kind of favor.

Careful. I got banned for saying less. Be greatful mods are like nhl refs.

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[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Anyway, I agree with everything you said, CP does take some time to realize the obvious. But I did think our drafting has been good, no?

The Flames do have great drafting but Treliving also bled picks his entire tenure and they seem to struggle with their late 1st round picks if I remember that athletic article right. The people who say the Flames only re-tool like to skip over the post Iginla rebuild that Treliving got impatient on.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The Flames do have great drafting but Treliving also bled picks his entire tenure and they seem to struggle with their late 1st round picks if I remember that athletic article right. The people who say the Flames only re-tool like to skip over the post Iginla rebuild that Treliving got impatient on.

I don't think it was Treliving TBH. Recall when Burke went to the Leafs he sold ownership on expediting the rebuild and dealt a bunch away to get veterans on the team. He was also here doing the same thing with Treliving. These guys are cut from the same cloth - selling ownership on an ideal they like to hear, than following through with that strategy. It's an overconfidence in their own abilities, and also speaks to the corporate world and how they like to hear things.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I’m actually happy about CP in general finally coming around to realizing this team isn’t elite. Last year this time the vast majority of people were saying Markstrom is bouncing back and the team is elite and we can’t rebuild. Most were pretty rebellious about doing a rebuild. I’m now happy there’s a push to the otherwise as there has been an illumination that you need elite players to go far. Being in the muddy middle or the classic “just get in the playoffs and anything can happen!” crew is sorely misguided.

Are we reading the same forum?
Has anyone felt this team is elite?
Moreover the vast majority have said they would support a rebuild and have for a while.
A pretty undeserved pat on the back you are giving yourself

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are we reading the same forum?
Has anyone felt this team is elite?
Moreover the vast majority have said they would support a rebuild and have for a while.
A pretty undeserved pat on the back you are giving yourself

You have to admit that “CP is collectively the same, which happens to be wrong, and I, an individual, am right” is one of the funniest genres of posts on here. As dorky as they come.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jesse Pullargi signs a PTO with Pittsburgh b

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

I find CP is generally a year or two from recognizing the obvious. Took forever to realize they held on to Iginla too long. Took two years to get that Treliving had constructed a house of cards and the team was rotten to the core. Too two years to realize Treliving was a terrible GM and only once he wasn't "our guy" just how bad he was. The next bitter realization is going to be the minor league system and development system is in bad shape and we're about to feel it. Treliving's incompetence hurt the prospect pool and we're going to feel that the most as we hope for a retool only to find there is a gap in the pool where we need those prospects stepping in. Sometimes what looks so obvious for some isn't so obvious for the majority until it starts to unfold in front of their faces.

Would have taken less words to just say "I'm smarter than everyone here!"

[ComixZone]

Poolparty off to the Penguins on a free agent tryout.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1733871797026595107

*Fata’d by Paulie

[Roof-Daddy]

Part of me wanted the Flames to rebuild after the loss to Dallas in the summer playoffs after the season ended due to COVID. That feeling was amplified after they got the crap kicked out of them in the shortened Canadian Division season. They would have gotten a massive windfall for their much younger core at that point.

But that shortened season resulted in Sutter being hired as coach and then they put up a 114 point season so I figured I was wrong, but hindsight now shows it might have actually been a better option after all. The 114 point season wasn't enough to keep Johnny and Tkachuk in Calgary and with Huberdeau crashing and burning hard, Lindholm and Hanifin also on the verge of leaving this whole thing is falling apart.

The smartest thing they can do now is trade every pending UFA for as many picks as they can, and any player north of 28 that's worth anything also trade for picks. Utilize cap space by retaining, and/or taking on bad contracts to accumulate even more picks. Draft as many as 30 players combined in 2024/25/26 and hope you get some fortune in the draft lottery as well.

Might have something building by 2027/28 and also have a new state of the art arena to help keep your new core together by then.

[868904]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HNIC:

Ethan Bear closing in on signing.
Capitals believed to have made a strong pitch.

Teams have called Van about Kuzmenko
Ice time has dropped and teams curious what Van wants to do with him.

One team asked the Flyers if they were willing to move both Sean Walker and Nick Seeler in a package

Briere is doing some kind of elite GMing. Sean Walker and Nick Seeler are in-demand assets???? Who the hell are these guys?

[stang]

Originally Posted by CF84

Because Stang only makes a peep after the Oilers win games...otherwise, completely MIA. Don't get me wrong. Stang is one of the best Oilers fans on CP, but at least Blaster86 sticks around when the Canucks suck.

Not really the place for this but I started on CP when I was 25, I’m in my 40’s now. I’ve chilled out a lot in that time. I’m a lot less interested in the arguing about hockey. So it’s easier to just read and not reply.

However I still like this place and it’s easy to get news and updates here. Plus when I do get the odd tidbit about the Flames I enjoy sharing it with the community (pretty sure I broke the Huska as HC here)

[PepsiFree]

Stang pumps the tires of the Flames more than some of the Flames “fans” we have here and I’ve noticed him around just as much when the Oilers are trash.

Terrible taste in hockey teams, but in a tier above every other Oiler fan on here.

[jayswin]

Absolutely, stang is a great poster. That slam post was just Dino7C being Dino7C.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Jesse Pullargi signs a PTO with Pittsburgh b

Dubas getting desperate!

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Would have taken less words to just say "I'm smarter than everyone here!"

For such a smart guy he can't even figure out virtual networks.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Why this? Stang is awesome, most Flames fans know this.

Because he only knows one song and thinks everyone else likes it as much as he does.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Would have taken less words to just say "I'm smarter than everyone here!"

Bingo

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[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are we reading the same forum?
Has anyone felt this team is elite?
Moreover the vast majority have said they would support a rebuild and have for a while.
A pretty undeserved pat on the back you are giving yourself

No one thought they were a juggernaut but a large percentage were predicting bounce back seasons from everyone, playoffs, and anything can happen if we get in, look at Florida, this team could win a round or two. There were plenty of posters claiming the Flames were to good to rebuild. Last season was all Sutters fault this is a good hockey team. I get it, the "I told you so" posts are annoying, but if this team was leading the division right now, I'm sure this board would be filled with I told you so posts going the other way.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are we reading the same forum?
Has anyone felt this team is elite?
Moreover the vast majority have said they would support a rebuild and have for a while.
A pretty undeserved pat on the back you are giving yourself

68% of people thought this was a playoff team, 23% felt that they were a contender. As flawed as this Poll is, there are a contingent of fans who felt that this team had an open window for success. That said, I don't think that anyone thinks so anymore.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=193580