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Old 11-30-2023, 10:26 PM   #461
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So Perry's contract was terminated because he's an alcoholic?

How many more contracts are the Blackhawks going to be allowed to get out of?
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I still don't get it. He isn't the first player to have drug or alcohol problems, and certainly not the first one to seek mental help.

Still doesn't explain the turfing.
An incident occurred, and he has alcohol problems. He was fired for the incident. They aren’t going to give details about it.
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This has more of the halmarks of a Alex Galchenyuk style incident while drunk on the town, minus Alex's DUI element.

I highly doubt anything of physical nature happened, sexual nature or anything that might even be considered potentially illegal. The police would have been notified without a doubt to have the organization do their due dilligence.

This was probably a team dinner, a team event, on the team plane, locker room attendant, security staff or at the team hotel. Workplace incident is the keyword here.

This wasn't some random event at some random place where a disagreement took place during the players personal time.
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Lol.. Could also be interpreted as poster points out another of many cautionary tales for why drinking into your 30s to the extent that this guy did is probably unwise, then discusses alternative lifestyle choices.

And then some posters take exception by painting the ones advocating good lifestyle choices as the obnoxious health bro type because that talk conflicts with their lifestyle. And the classic more concealed approach of "quality of health you employ doesn't matter as long as you're a good person" remark.

(Some the same posters that talk about their drinking in other OT threads)

You're one step behind.

Pretty normal CP progression of posters reacting to people that have a different perspective and turning it into groups with conflicting stances stereotyping one another.

Personally, I'll never stop or feel bad talking about good lifestyle choices. No one has to agree if it's not them. That's cool. You can only lead a horse to water I suppose. But its worth saying. It doesn't mean someone is bad or wrong in exercising their right to live how they want and choosing a different path for their own reasons. That's entirely valid. I wouldn't judge someone for coping through binge drinking or simply enjoying craft beer as a past time. Been in both of those place before.

People who think they're being flexed on and reacting are taking it the wrong way I think. But alas, that's par for CP.
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This was probably a team dinner, a team event, on the team plane, locker room attendant, security staff or at the team hotel. Workplace incident is the keyword here.
Davidson said that the players did not know the specifics of what happened, so I doubt it was on display for everyone to see.
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I respect that Davidson had to do an investigation and privacy is part of this.

But after thinking on this, the fact that Kyle or his many superiors that are supposed to be hands on didn't have the common sense/judgement/understanding to come out right away and deal with the Bedard rumours is actually pretty brutal.

They are false rumours and obviously have nothing to do with the investigation.

If i were Bedard, his family and his agent, I would be deeply upset to the point of questioning whether we are aligned with the Blackhawks.

What a joke organization.
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I respect that Davidson had to do an investigation and privacy is part of this.

But after thinking on this, the fact that Kyle or his many superiors that are supposed to be hands on didn't have the common sense/judgement/understanding to come out right away and deal with the Bedard rumours is actually pretty brutal.

They are false rumours and obviously have nothing to do with the investigation.

If i were Bedard, his family and his agent, I would be deeply upset to the point of questioning whether we are aligned with the Blackhawks.

What a joke organization.
Didn’t they hold a press conference with no other purpose than to deal with the rumours the day after the rumours got traction?

EDIT: actually looking back I think it was the same day

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Didn’t they hold a press conference with no other purpose than to deal with the rumours the day after the rumours got traction?
Yes, they did. Then some people complained because they didn't say what actually happened, only what didn't.
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Didn’t they hold a press conference with no other purpose than to deal with the rumours the day after the rumours got traction?

EDIT: actually looking back I think it was the same day
I think you are right. But this was out of control before that if i recall. Hours mattered.
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So Perry's contract was terminated because he's an alcoholic?

How many more contracts are the Blackhawks going to be allowed to get out of?
Perry was doing a good job, they had no reason why they wanted to get out of the contract.
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I respect that Davidson had to do an investigation and privacy is part of this.

But after thinking on this, the fact that Kyle or his many superiors that are supposed to be hands on didn't have the common sense/judgement/understanding to come out right away and deal with the Bedard rumours is actually pretty brutal.

They are false rumours and obviously have nothing to do with the investigation.

If i were Bedard, his family and his agent, I would be deeply upset to the point of questioning whether we are aligned with the Blackhawks.

What a joke organization.
They actually handled it quickly and exceptionally well. I'm sure Bedard and his family are quite thnkful with how it was handled.
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I think you are right. But this was out of control before that if i recall. Hours mattered.
Out of control because the internet is a beast and is undefeated. It was so stupid and nonsensical that I’m sure they immediately dismissed it, like most rational people. Unfortunately, those seemed to be few and far between on this item. So they literally held a press conference for no purpose other than to squash a meme. Same day.

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They actually handled it quickly and exceptionally well. I'm sure Bedard and his family are quite thnkful with how it was handled.


You may have not been on social media for a recent period of time.
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It's not like they could be expected to hold a press conference the second one twitter made a post.

They handled it was quickly as one could reasonably expect.

I saw it when the twitter first came out. I chose to not believe it, without further evidence.
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I haven't read the whole thread so pardon if this has been mentioned already, but.....

Corey Perry allegedly had an ongoing relationship with a team massage therapist. Over time, she wanted to end the relationship and Perry did not allow/want her to do so. He used his power and control to manipulate the relationship and tried to keep her under his control, so to speak.

This is coming from somebody I know who is connected to a player with inside knowledge. I trust my source, but you don't have to.
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I haven't read the whole thread so pardon if this has been mentioned already, but.....

Corey Perry allegedly had an ongoing relationship with a team massage therapist. Over time, she wanted to end the relationship and Perry did not allow/want her to do so. He used his power and control to manipulate the relationship and tried to keep her under his control, so to speak.

This is coming from somebody I know who is connected to a player with inside knowledge. I trust my source, but you don't have to.
Yeah, ESPN had a blurb about it being an issue with a staff member and then scrubbed it. I assumed he got creepy with somebody
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Old 12-01-2023, 12:02 PM   #476
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I read another one about it being an incident involving a Chelios.
There it is. Confirmed via insider on CP, he touched Chelios' peepee. E5. Off to reddit I go to let the world know.
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I’ve had my share of drugs. Weed, shrooms, LSD, DMT. None of them have ever made me feel as crappy the next day as even a light drunkenness worth of alcohol has. Minus the DMT, I’d rather have a night with any of the above personally.
I barely get hung over any more from booze, even when I go hard. Hydration, food in the stomach and a minimum number of hours a sleep is key. Worst drug hangover by far for me was MDA. Always had to plan for the next day ahead when I did that stuff. Book the day off, have juice and food stocked, 5-htp within reach, any kind of chores already done, no family problems to deal with, etc. Anyways, good times.
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There it is. Confirmed via insider on CP, he touched Chelios' peepee. E5. Off to reddit I go to let the world know.
There's a Honey Nut Chelios joke in there somewhere.
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Out of control because the internet is a beast and is undefeated. It was so stupid and nonsensical that I’m sure they immediately dismissed it, like most rational people. Unfortunately, those seemed to be few and far between on this item. So they literally held a press conference for no purpose other than to squash a meme. Same day.

PS I hate the hawks.
Not to mention, just because 'the internet' is going ham on some dumb rumor, the Blackhawks couldn't go off half-cocked in their response to it. They likely consulted their lawyers, the Bedards and the Blackhawk PR folks, and dealt with it properly.

It's not like the Blackhawks could have just tweeted out "Nuh uh!" or something. Rando's on the internet can spout off whatever they want, a business has to be more careful about it. Especially with something as easy to damage as a reputation.
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Yes, they did. Then some people complained because they didn't say what actually happened, only what didn't.
As a general rule. People will always complain.
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