2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[GUnit]

So how about those trade rumors

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Same as everyone else to discuss the Flames, NHL, off topic stuff, other sports.

Just because you don't like that I am not a super duper homer like you, doesn't mean I can't post here.

You may notice that NOBODY likes your takes here except for other known trolls
I mean you are arguing with the owner

Maybe look in the mirror and ask yourself why, take a look through your post history its 100% negative

You are on a FAN SITE for the Calgary Flames, yeah there might be a few homer takes...you know what fan is short for right?

might be a better fit at HF

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hackey

He's a filler players in my eyes because he likely has a stint here and is gone before we're even competitive. So to me it makes almost no difference if he's there getting 40 pts or some guy from the wranglers is in his spot getting 30 pts.

But as I've said I'm not even worried about that trade its over. Don't go spend our upcoming UFAs in similar trades. Look for quality of assets over quantity and try to focus on assets that can be here for the long term. You hit on a guy like Rasmus with a 2nd rounder and that is massive value.

The Flames best chance at turning things around quickly would be to bottom out the next few seasons s and land their next core and supplement that core with players they pick or draft through their UFAs and current prospects.

"some guy" puts up 30 points lol

again the highest pick in franchise history has a career high of 49 points. People are assuming a lot when trading for picks. Keep all your own picks but there is nothing bad about trading for young somewhat established players. In fact its far more likely to work out.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Where did I say Toffoli should have returned a 1st? The entire conversation has been around the remaining UFAs. Of which Lindholm and Hanifin shpuld definitely be able to land 1sts.

Is Sharangovich a top 6? No. So yes he's a bottom 6.

But I wasn't even referring to him specifically. I'm talking about potential returns for our UFAs coming up. Don't waste their value trying to do some half ass win now move and half ass re tool crap they did with Toffoli. We don't need some mediocre player paired with a mediocre draft pick.

Curious how you come to this conclusion.

Points (among forwards): 10, tied in group 156 -174, or a #6 forward
EVP: 9, tied in group 109 - 144, or a #4-5 forward
TOI: 265th overall, #9 (so he is outproducing his TOI)
PPG: 202nd, #7, WITH ZERO PP POINTS

So he is getting the opportunity of a 3rd liner (lower TOI and little PP time), and yet he is producing as a 2nd liner.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Murray Edward’s wants to win a cup every year and won’t sanction an EDM style rebuild. So they probably will sign Hanifin and won’t trade the other guys away. They will ride them out to FA as long as there is a chance at making the playoffs.

It would be terrible optics to let Lindholm walk for nothing after what Conroy said about not being happy about losing Johnny for nothing

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Guys why are we fighting with each other in here!? Go take your frustration out in the E=NG forum.

I think the E=ng forum is where there is the least disagreement on CP.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Murray Edward’s wants to win a cup every year and won’t sanction an EDM style rebuild. So they probably will sign Hanifin and won’t trade the other guys away. They will ride them out to FA as long as there is a chance at making the playoffs.

I can absolutely guarantee this will not happen. I am sure Sec will back me up on this one. Conroy has absolute power to do as he wishes from Edwards including blowing it up if he wanted.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by GUnit

So how about those trade rumors

Or the speculations.

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[dino7c]

they lost Gaudreau for nothing...but they were a first place team and they also met all his contract demands only to have him bail at the last second

He had a NTC that season too no?

Lindholm seems like an entirely different situation, I'm not sure why everyone is so worried...its not like the Flames have lost a ton of high end UFAs for nothing over the years.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they lost Gaudreau for nothing...but they were a first place team and they also met all his contract demands only to have him bail at the last second

He had a NTC that season too no?

Lindholm seems like an entirely different situation, I'm not sure why everyone is so worried...its not like the Flames have lost a ton of high end UFAs for nothing over the years.

Conroy said that he cares about asset management. It’s not good to let valuable players walk and not get anything for them. I guess the cap space you get is a bonus but it would still look bad on the org if they lost both Hanifin and Lindholm to UFA considering what happened last time

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I can absolutely guarantee this will not happen. I am sure Sec will back me up on this one. Conroy has absolute power to do as he wishes from Edwards including blowing it up if he wanted.

I’ll take your word for it. I do think what Seravalli said about other teams not willing to make trades atm and the Flames being open to trade is true. Hopefully things change soon

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I think when you point out the lies no it isn't an attack. I don't think I have said anything negative about you, said you were a bad person, I just said what you did. I also have no idea what you are like outside of here so haven't made any comment about that either. A message board is a pretty tiny slice of someone's life so not I don't think saying someone is a liar on a message board is an attack, or even comment, on their character.

I'd saying calling me and I quote "a liar" is somewhat negative.

You used the word schtick, your schtick is on full display in this discussion.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Spurs

LOL

Except I haven't lost anything and pointed out what actually happened. I have countered every point brought up. There is no debate about whether he lied or not he admitted it.

You have shown you are so scared of different opinions that you have to try and paint it as trolling but you repeatedly crying wolf doesn't make it any less true that the first time you started crying about it.

Who admitted to lying?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I would have to be wrong, so far it hasn't happened with this in any way.

Why would I argue against gravity that makes no sense? What is the point in you constantly making up these false/hypothetical scenarios that are unrelated? Why not just discuss what is posted?

Gravity is like “cupping” a puck and throwing it and saying that it is not a penalty.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I get the sentiment, but this view is being way overdone by fans. Even if your premise is correct that the Flames won't be competitive until he is over 30, the fact remains that every team has players over 30. When they are competitive (whenever that is), they will need veterans on the team.

And in the meantime, they need players to lead the way for the kids, and show them how to be pros. Look at any team that didn't do that (EDM, BUF, etc), they left the kids to figure it out for themselves, and that usually doesn't go well.

Even in a rebuild, you need vets and you need to maintain culture and good professional habits.

I guess my opinion is that Kadri, Weager, Huberdeau, Backlund, Anderson, Coleman are already those veterans. I don’t think we need to worry about veterans in 4-5 years to show the young kids the way because we will have those vets over the next 2-4 years and then eventually Zary, Pospisil and others are the veterans. The Flames already have a solid core of quality vets.

[Bingo]

So do the Flames need an injury to call Coronato up? (He scored again today).

Or do they make room with someone like Duehr sent down?

And is Pospisil an NHLer now based on waiver status and play? He certainly looks like he belongs.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So do the Flames need an injury to call Coronato up? (He scored again today).

Or do they make room with someone like Duehr sent down?

And is Pospisil an NHLer now based on waiver status and play? He certainly looks like he belongs.

I sure hope Pospisil is a NHLer. I would be pretty pissed if they sent him down and someone else picked him up. I think he is here for the year now. I would be fine sending Duehr down, doubt he gets picked up.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So do the Flames need an injury to call Coronato up? (He scored again today).

Or do they make room with someone like Duehr sent down?

And is Pospisil an NHLer now based on waiver status and play? He certainly looks like he belongs.

DeSimone was assigned to the Wranglers today, but it's most likely a paper transaction. With DeSimone on the roster we have 22 players and $1.3-1.4M of LTIR cap space remaining. I don't think we need an emergency recall. That said Wolf was an emergency recall for some reason, so I'm not entirely sure.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

DeSimone was assigned to the Wranglers today, but it's most likely a paper transaction. With DeSimone on the roster we have 22 players and $1.3-1.4M of LTIR cap space remaining. I don't think we need an emergency recall. That said Wolf was an emergency recall for some reason, so I'm not entirely sure.

Now that the Flames are at home for an extended stretch, I would think they'll try to get Wolf into the lineup.

Up until now, the Flames have had a 1 game homestand, and 3 2-game homestands. They finally have a 6 gamer, and can unpack their suitcases for the first time this year.

Perfect opportunity to bring Wolf up for a game or 2.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So do the Flames need an injury to call Coronato up? (He scored again today).

Or do they make room with someone like Duehr sent down?

And is Pospisil an NHLer now based on waiver status and play? He certainly looks like he belongs.

I would rather Duehr on the team over Dube, waive Dube and call up Coronato. maybe we get lucky and someone takes on Dube's $2.3m