11-11-2023, 10:51 AM
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#461
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Britflamesfan
So people would rather have a 3rd round pick (which the chances of that player playing in the NHL is slim. Than a big, fast, good skating player who can hit like a train. If we are rebuilding then you still need to get to the lower end of the cap. You still need some vets to teach the young players. I think the flames will regret losing Zadorov unless they get something significant back.
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Nobody wants a third round pick more than Zadorov.
Everyone wants a third round pick over a 6 year $5.5M contract for Zadorov.
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11-11-2023, 10:52 AM
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#462
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Major Major
I like Z but when he was calling out his teammates he was also playing like ass and continued to do so for a couple games after. Words are words
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This, and I have been a big supporter
He may have been the worst dman in the classic
5x5?
No thanks...return.plus weaponize that 5M in cap space
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11-11-2023, 10:55 AM
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#463
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Franchise Player
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To be fair Z is easily a top 4 D man based on his last 2 years performance.
He’d even slot in top 2 on some teams.
I’d rather pay Zadorov a 6x5 than pay Hanifin that same money, and that’s what Conroy is going to end up doing, just watch.
Let the guy who wants to be a Flame walk and sign the guy who wanted out last year who’s been absolutely brutal all year to the big extension.
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11-11-2023, 10:57 AM
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#465
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
So, if I understand this correctly 2 days ago he wanted to sign a multi-year extension and now he wants a trade? Posturing from his agent? I hate when things like this go public, it always decreases value.
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How so? He's on an expiring contract and not re-signed for next season. Other teams know that he could be had in a trade. Conroy doesn't have to trade him until the TDL regardless of Zadorov's wishes. Big Z is looking for a big contract so he'll be motivated to play well in order to maximize that potential even if he's not traded prior to the TDL. His saying he wants out doesn't affect the market.
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11-11-2023, 10:57 AM
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#466
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
So lie to them?
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No, tell them the truth. Better yet, don't even return their phone calls. Who cares if they want to be here or not? They can go be on a 50 goal pace for some real contender. We'd rather have healthy scratch castoffs and delude ourselves into thinking this is good asset management.
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11-11-2023, 11:03 AM
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#468
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mile
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Hallelujah. If Francis is tweeting it that means Edwards is good with it. Bye bye UFAs. Too bad it wasn't last deadline but this is better than nothing.
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11-11-2023, 11:03 AM
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#469
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Royle9
To be fair Z is easily a top 4 D man based on his last 2 years performance.
He’d even slot in top 2 on some teams.
I’d rather pay Zadorov a 6x5 than pay Hanifin that same money, and that’s what Conroy is going to end up doing, just watch.
Let the guy who wants to be a Flame walk and sign the guy who wanted out last year who’s been absolutely brutal all year to the big extension.
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Outside of this years San Jose team, and I am not sure he even makes it in that one, which team is he close to a top pairing guy???? Only teams he has a chance to be top 4 are non-playoff teams. He couldn't even crack the top 4 of the non-playoff Flames last year.
I like Zadorov, he seems like a great guy but if he plays in your top 4 you are in trouble and not competing for anything.
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11-11-2023, 11:04 AM
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#470
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Royle9
To be fair Z is easily a top 4 D man based on his last 2 years performance.
He’d even slot in top 2 on some teams.
I’d rather pay Zadorov a 6x5 than pay Hanifin that same money, and that’s what Conroy is going to end up doing, just watch.
Let the guy who wants to be a Flame walk and sign the guy who wanted out last year who’s been absolutely brutal all year to the big extension.
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How would you know?
We haven't seen it.
He's only played 18% of his ice time against elite competition over the last several years.
So sure maybe he could be a top four defenseman and the Flames are holding him back.
Or maybe he's just not a top four defenseman, and Sutter and Huska know it.
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11-11-2023, 11:07 AM
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#471
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by D as in David
How so? He's on an expiring contract and not re-signed for next season. Other teams know that he could be had in a trade. Conroy doesn't have to trade him until the TDL regardless of Zadorov's wishes. Big Z is looking for a big contract so he'll be motivated to play well in order to maximize that potential even if he's not traded prior to the TDL. His saying he wants out doesn't affect the market.
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I guess it's different when it's a pending UFA, but if I always feel GM's look down on players/agents that pull stunts like this. I find it unprofessional, they could have kept it internal.
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11-11-2023, 11:09 AM
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#472
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Scoring Winger
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Zadorov
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
It seems like people are justifiably trashing the agent moreso than Zadorov himself.
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I don't think Milstein will lose any sleep over what the fans are saying about him.
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11-11-2023, 11:10 AM
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#473
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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Would rather give Z the contract if were going into a rebuild. Sell the guys who are out there ####ing the dog like Hanifin. Z has fire in him and plays hard for the team (only 28 too) he's a good guy to keep around to set a precedent for the youngsters we want to nurture.
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11-11-2023, 11:15 AM
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#474
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Patek23
Would rather give Z the contract if were going into a rebuild. Sell the guys who are out there ####ing the dog like Hanifin. Z has fire in him and plays hard for the team (only 28 too) he's a good guy to keep around to set a precedent for the youngsters we want to nurture.
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I'd rather not have another terrible long term contract. They can sign good veteran guys on cheap contracts
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11-11-2023, 11:20 AM
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#475
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First Line Centre
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I think it’s pretty obvious what’s going on here. He just grew tired of Danielle Smith like the rest of us and wants out.
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11-11-2023, 11:22 AM
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#476
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pengrowth Saddledome, Section 222, Row 23, Seat 14/15
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Anyone who does not want to be in Calgary, see ya later. Let’s get what we can for them. The young guns on this roster are out playing the vets and it’s not even close.
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11-11-2023, 11:22 AM
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#477
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Let the guy who wants to be a Flame walk and sign the guy who wanted out last year who’s been absolutely brutal all year to the big extension.
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Is the guy who wants to be a Flame the guy who has asked for a trade and had his agent talking about leaving on twitter?
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11-11-2023, 11:22 AM
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#478
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Royle9
To be fair Z is easily a top 4 D man based on his last 2 years performance.
He’d even slot in top 2 on some teams.
I’d rather pay Zadorov a 6x5 than pay Hanifin that same money, and that’s what Conroy is going to end up doing, just watch.
Let the guy who wants to be a Flame walk and sign the guy who wanted out last year who’s been absolutely brutal all year to the big extension.
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Based on what? If he played Hanifins minutes and competition you may have a different take.
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11-11-2023, 11:25 AM
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#479
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Spurs
Is the guy who wants to be a Flame the guy who has asked for a trade and had his agent talking about leaving on twitter?
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Only after asking for an extension.
Flames won’t commit so he wants out, can’t fault him for that.
Noah just wanted out cause his boys left.
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11-11-2023, 11:27 AM
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#480
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Hallelujah. If Francis is tweeting it that means Edwards is good with it. Bye bye UFAs. Too bad it wasn't last deadline but this is better than nothing.
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What is the connection between Francis and Edwards?
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