Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[monkeyman]

Do you really think all these highly technical and cutting edge advances are actually making things cheaper? We’re not talking about drones from China with bombs attached. These are technologies we likely haven’t even heard of yet, being developed by companies like Lockheed Martin.
Besides, NATO requires us to spend 1.29% of GDP to meet our obligations. Just last July Justin pledged to spend 2%. We’re nowhere near that and our partners in NATO are starting to take exception to that.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

We’re nowhere near that and our partners in NATO are starting to take exception to that.

Massive hypocrites if true, considering only 6 NATO partners are spending that much right now.

EDIT: I should say I don't actually think the new tech is making defense cheaper. It was just a question for people who know more than I do.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

At least Carney is a smart guy and doesn't come with a lot of pre-existing political baggage. I don't hate this if true.

I would vote for Carney.

We need an adult in the room. He's not perfect, but he's automatically the best candidate from any of the parties.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Massive hypocrites if true, considering only 6 NATO partners are spending that much right now.

EDIT: I should say I don't actually think the new tech is making defense cheaper. It was just a question for people who know more than I do.

NATO commitments are based off percentage of GDP. Almost no members are meeting their obligation of 2 per cent. But at 1.39, Canada is almost at the bottom (#25 out of 29).

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ing-by-country

[CliffFletcher]

I’m getting an Ignatieff vibe off Carney. I don’t think the public mood in the country today will be favourable to a technocrat. Especially one whose policies can readily be linked to the housing crisis.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I’m getting an Ignatieff vibe off Carney. I don’t think the public mood in the country today will be favourable to a technocrat. Especially one whose policies can readily be linked to the housing crisis.

Hate to agree with Cliff, but he's absolutely right. Carney represents an extension of the neoliberal policies that got us here in the first place.

There'll be a leftist revolt if they have any balls.

[activeStick]

Head of Canadian Ukrainian group defends man who fought for unit created by Nazis

The president of the Ukrainian National Federation of Canada is defending a Second World War veteran of a Nazi unit who was recently lauded as a hero in Canada’s Parliament.

Jurij Klufas has not met 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka but says the veteran is being treated unfairly. He says Hunka was fighting for Ukraine — not Germany — and that countries, including Canada, have cleared his division of war crimes.


“If you’re a soldier doesn’t mean you’re a member of a certain party from the country,” Klufas said Friday in a phone interview. “In this case, the senior gentleman here was a soldier, in his understanding, fighting for Ukraine.”

Ivan Katchanovski, a Ukrainian-Canadian political science professor at the University of Ottawa, says the actions of Hunka’s Waffen-SS Galicia Division have been “whitewashed” in Canada.

He says supporters have tried to present the division as a patriotic Ukrainian force despite the fact it collaborated with Nazis and was involved in a variety of atrocities, including the killings of Jews, Ukrainians and Poles.

“They represent this division as fighting not for Nazi Germany, but fighting for Ukrainian independence, even though there was never any opportunity to fight for any Ukrainian independence,” he said. “They were fighting under German command until the end of World War II.”

He said the heroic interpretation is particularly prevalent in Canada, where many of the division’s members immigrated under a controversial process that was opposed by Jewish groups.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/09/...ated-by-nazis/

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What if defense just costs less these days due to various technological advancements?

If anything you pay more for less units, but those units kill and destroy more.

There's a reason why the Ukraines are excited about getting M1A1 tanks. Because they're extremely tough to kill and they're just plain better then most tanks on the planet. They might cost more on average, but you can get away with slightly less.

The F-35 is in the same category. Its a combination of a extremely advanced technology platform with missiles and guns, but its probably going to have a high kill ratio against ground targets and air targets.

The cold hard fact of the matter is that Canada needs a massive infusion of capital and new equipment purchase to place the majority of its obsolete gear. Instead they're going to have to make due and cannibalize to keep less equipment in working order.

There's a reason why experienced soldiers are leaving in droves. News like this proves to them that the Armed Forces is not a serious career choice, and the government is willing to risk their lives on deployments while making them work with less.

[Yoho]

JT and the liberals getting increased international attention.

This is totally wrong, more banana republic stuff.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1708583842905211225

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Yoho

JT and the liberals getting increased international attention.

This is totally wrong, more banana republic stuff.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1708583842905211225

Lol. Who gives a #### what that clown thinks?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Lol. Who gives a #### what that clown thinks?

You have to be some kind of smooth brain to take Greenwald at face value in the first place, and Musk can't resist the opportunity to have an opinion on everything.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Musk and Greenwald, lol. Yeah, I totally take what they say seriously. My goodness.

[Yoho]

No one should care about who said what. The substance of the gov forcing compliance and restrictions on pod casts like YouTube to censor and mute content is next level banana republic.

Get past your biases of individuals.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

For anyone that ACTUALLY read what was posted by CRTC:

First, the CRTC is setting out which online streaming services need to provide information about their activities in Canada. Online streaming services that operate in Canada, offer broadcasting content, and earn $10 million or more in annual revenues will need to complete a registration form by November 28, 2023. Registration collects basic information, is only required once and can be completed in just a few steps.

Second, the CRTC is setting conditions for online streaming services to operate in Canada. These conditions take effect today and require certain online streaming services to provide the CRTC with information related to their content and subscribership. The decision also requires those services to make content available in a way that is not tied to a specific mobile or Internet service.

A third consultation is ongoing. It considers contributions traditional broadcasters and online streaming services will need to make to support Canadian and Indigenous content. The CRTC will hold a three-week public proceeding starting on November 20, 2023, and will hear from 129 intervenors representing a broad range of interests.

So 1: Register so the CRTC knows who you are.

and 2: CRTC needs to know what kind of podcast you have, and subcribers (not unlike TV and radio) and ensures that you can't limit access to your podcast by making it specific to a platform. An interesting way to censor podcasters, by making it illegal to not have wide access to your podcast.

lastly 3: Consultations will continue on how to increase and/or incorporate Canadian and Indeginous content.

My God... The horror!!!!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

No one should care about who said what. The substance of the gov forcing compliance and restrictions on pod casts like YouTube to censor and mute content is next level banana republic.

Get past your biases of individuals.

Just so we're clear: you're asking other people to get past their biases?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Just so we're clear: you're asking other people to get past their biases?

You’re right let’s discuss Elon instead.

[Wormius]

I don't see anything in those Tweets that represent whatever Elon or Glenn are moaning on about. And I don't know why you're using CP to repost their uninformed opinions.

[Yoho]

Read the CRTC government of Canada announcement article they quoted.

[Wormius]

What part was relevant?

[Yoho]

That’s not my idea of freedom of speech.