Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I’m not weird. You’re weird for thinking I’m weird.

Since you are sooo wanting to talk about personal finances, you go first.

OK? Financially I’m well off and have never been better after a rocky blip during COVID, so I personally have no experience as one of the “majority” struggling at least a significant amount. Since I have no experience with it, and the statistics don’t seem to support it, you must have experience with it yeah?

What solutions are the Conservatives bringing to the table that you, as a person who is struggling, feel you need just to get by?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

OK? Financially I’m well off and have never been better after a rocky blip during COVID, so I personally have no experience as one of the “majority” struggling at least a significant amount. Since I have no experience with it, and the statistics don’t seem to support it, you must have experience with it yeah?

What solutions are the Conservatives bringing to the table that you, as a person who is struggling, feel you need just to get by?

I saw a non homeless lady holding up a white cardboard sign three days ago at
an intersection that read “will clean houses for groceries” that’s a new one.

Cutting stupid taxes might be a start.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Keep leaning into the right wing agenda and they will decide, and you will not like what you see.

Keep burying your head in the sand with the effects of the last 8 years of ruling liberal government and you’ll continue to see the same polling numbers.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1700313023951388792

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I saw a non homeless lady holding up a white cardboard sign three days ago at
an intersection that read “will clean houses for groceries” that’s a new one.

Cutting stupid taxes might be a start.

A tax cut on her non-existent income will probably put some change in her pocket. Fact of the matter is poverty was twice as high under Harper as it is under Trudeau. All a conservative government would do is slow wealthy Canadians the ability to pay less taxes.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-...nual.html#h2.4

Poverty was reduced by 33% between 2015 and 2019 thanks to Liberal policies. In less than shocking news, the only province where poverty was not significantly reduced was the only conservative provincial government at the time (Saskatchewan). Conservatives never accomplish anything in terms of reducing income inequality.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

OK? Financially I’m well off and have never been better after a rocky blip during COVID, so I personally have no experience as one of the “majority” struggling at least a significant amount. Since I have no experience with it, and the statistics don’t seem to support it, you must have experience with it yeah?

What solutions are the Conservatives bringing to the table that you, as a person who is struggling, feel you need just to get by?

You’re saying there’s no stats to support that Canadian are struggling financially? Now as to “why” that’s a different debate.


More than half of Canadians $200 away or less from not being able to pay all of their billshttps://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/bus...1_6473939.html

One in three Canadians in 'bad' or 'terrible' financial shape, up from pandemic highs: Angus Reid survey
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/bus...47751.amp.html

[Ozy_Flame]

I bet if the carbon tax was eliminated, people wouldn't be in such dire straits (well, at least those who don't get the yearly rebate).

It's just 'common sense.'

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I bet if the carbon tax was eliminated, people wouldn't be in such dire straits (well, at least those who don't get the yearly rebate).

It's just 'common sense.'

So obvious, just like the 2% reduction in the GST saved the family budget last time around.

I'll admit though, when I watched the closing speech by PP, it sounded a awful lot like the "sunny ways" Trudeau that conservatives hated so much. It was vapid, pie in the sky trope that we've come to expect from Justin, but delivered by Pierre they were lapping it up. Don't you love politics?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Slava

It was vapid, pie in the sky trope that we've come to expect from Justin, but delivered by Pierre they were lapping it up. Don't you love politics?

Politicians get moist at huge pops. I bet PP was one tongue swirl away from giving his election victory speech early. The people would have thrown their convoy panties in a wild fervor. Andrew Scheer would be on Roman Baber's shoulders flashing his breasts in delight, but not before Mel Lantsman runs on stage and begs for a lock of Pierre's glorious pompadour.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

You’re saying there’s no stats to support that Canadian are struggling financially? Now as to “why” that’s a different debate.

I’m saying the stats specifically do not support that a majority of Canadians are struggling, at minimum, “a significant amount.” To your first link, for example, the statistics don’t actually seem to support that polling (in the report it notes that roughly 30% of Canadians polled said they were insolvent, which I do not believe there are any numbers to back up a number like that, but it you’re got the actual stat then by all means share).

But the why is absolutely the conversation. Without the why, this conversation wouldn’t be had in the Canadian Politics thread.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I saw a non homeless lady holding up a white cardboard sign three days ago at
an intersection that read “will clean houses for groceries” that’s a new one.

Cutting stupid taxes might be a start.

Damn, a white cardboard sign? What has Trudeau done to us?

[Regorium]

I was actually reading a poll about how Canadians believe they are doing fine economically, but that the economy on a societal level is doing poorly.

Aggregated over the entire population it doesn't make sense. Someone has to be doing bad right?

Its kind of interesting to see it in action here.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

You’re saying there’s no stats to support that Canadian are struggling financially? Now as to “why” that’s a different debate.


More than half of Canadians $200 away or less from not being able to pay all of their billshttps://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/bus...1_6473939.html

One in three Canadians in 'bad' or 'terrible' financial shape, up from pandemic highs: Angus Reid survey
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/bus...47751.amp.html

The $200 or less poll has been run by an insolvency firm pretty much annually and has stayed in the 45-55% range for years.

[Wormius]

Someone advertising an exchange of labour for goods? How novel. What is this world coming to?

Anyway, the argument that less taxes will somehow help anyone struggling is absurd, even for some people. Let’s be realistic, using this “struggling” person is justification to get what *you* want, which is lower taxes. Just be honest about it and stop using other people as props or tools to make a point for something you personally want, but doesn’t help anyone else. All this faux-caring makes me want to puke.

But it was at least a little truthful with the “might help”, as if he already knew it actually wouldn’t help that person in the slightest.

[PsYcNeT]

Canadians apparently can't afford food based on this thread, but the CPC is really focusing on the important stuff: making life worse and more dangerous for marginalized people.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1700612266322809118

Back to the Conservative bread and butter

[Yoho]

I guess when you can’t afford to eat or have a roof over your head it’s hard to pay attention to social justice issues.

Life over limb.

[Ozy_Flame]

So what you're saying is because Cons are voting on regressive social justice issues their housing and food needs are taken care of?

Fantastico!

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

So what you're saying is because Cons are voting on regressive social justice issues their housing and food needs are taken care of?

Fantastico!

Even the lowliest MPs are doing pretty nicely for themselves. What do they have to worry about, besides being re-elected?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Canadians apparently can't afford food based on this thread, but the CPC is really focusing on the important stuff: making life worse and more dangerous for marginalized people.

Back to the Conservative bread and butter

This is largely an indication that the party base is made up of Christofacists hell bent on foisting their discriminatory bible based views on the rest of the country. It doesn't matter if PP disowns the policies or not, this is who the party is now, and if he wants to ignore them, he's going to be in for a rough ride(see Jason Kenney). Thanks Preston Manning, Stephen Harper, and Peter MacKay. It's been a long ride, but I think we can safely conclude the bible backed Reform takeover of classic Canadian Conservatism is complete.


How are normal sane Conservative Canadians supposed to get behind this trash? Where is the choice for the rest of us? Stupid muppets.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

This is largely an indication that the party base is made up of Christofacists hell bent on foisting their discriminatory bible based views on the rest of the country. It doesn't matter if PP disowns the policies or not, this is who the party is now, and if he wants to ignore them, he's going to be in for a rough ride(see Jason Kenney). Thanks Preston Manning, Stephen Harper, and Peter MacKay. It's been a long ride, but I think we can safely conclude the bible backed Reform takeover of classic Canadian Conservatism is complete.


How are normal sane Conservative Canadians supposed to get behind this trash? Where is the choice for the rest of us? Stupid muppets.

You don’t have to you get to vote however you choose. The real question is what’s going on with the liberals right now.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1700885581406798060

[Whynotnow]

The country I think genuinely wants change from Trudeau and the liberals - that’s what the polls say today. The conservatives have never been better positioned to campaign on a pretty simple platform of good governance and helping people out. Instead they will see this as an opportunity to push ideals and agendas that are too socially conservative. If they do that, the GTA will most likely spit the bit on change and the conservatives will at very best form a minority government that can’t survive as they have no ally.

Sigh. Just a self inflicted wound and an entirely predictable one.