2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Chonger

Everything would have to go right to battle for 14th-16th. You are praying for magic if you think this roster could win a round. This is of course, like, just my opinion man!

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The Flames finished 16th last year, in a year when everything went wrong. So your assuming with everything going right, they'll to battle extra hard to get where they were last year?

[1qqaaz]

Yeah, I don't think LA is that far ahead of Calgary, if at all.
They haven't been all that inspiring in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by blankall

The Flames finished 16th last year, in a year when everything went wrong. So your assuming with everything going right, they'll to battle extra hard to get where they were last year?

Well the Flames were again one of the healthiest teams in the league last year, so I wouldn't say everything went wrong.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Flames finished 16th last year, in a year when everything went wrong. So your assuming with everything going right, they'll to battle extra hard to get where they were last year?

I think it may depend on whether or not some of the UFA's are dealt and at what time, and the return that comes back.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Yeah, I don't think LA is that far ahead of Calgary, if at all.
They haven't been all that inspiring in the playoffs.



Well the Flames were again one of the healthiest teams in the league last year, so I wouldn't say everything went wrong.

I think a top four defenseman missing the whole season counts as an injury.

Tanev missed 17 games (almost 20% of the season)

Huberdeau missed 3

Andersson got hit by a car.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

at this rate the division is more or less has a set top three. LAK, LVGK and EDNG. The Flames are sniffing around a wild card spot at best.

Naw. Calgary playing well can easily compete with Edm and LAK. I don't see how Kopitar at 36 is a lock to lead his team to the playoffs again. The Oilers had career years out of most of their forward corps.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think it may depend on whether or not some of the UFA's are dealt and at what time, and the return that comes back.

I also think people will be pleasantly surprised at what the youth, when actually allowed to play, bring to the team. Instead of the bottom six being populated by journeymen vets putting up 15-20 points, they'll be lots of young energy guys bringing 30ish points.

A lot of people in here will be disappointed when we re-sign Lindholm to a $9million/year contract. I believe that Hanifin will be traded for offensive help.

[jar_e]

Allegedly Petry has been traded to Detroit.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by blankall

Naw. Calgary playing well can easily compete with Edm and LAK. I don't see how Kopitar at 36 is a lock to lead his team to the playoffs again. The Oilers had career years out of most of their forward corps.

People got pretty excited about the Kings' prospects but it hasn't really materialized, you have Kopitar aging out (and Doughty is 32 as well), and I'm not sold on Korpisalo either.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

First I want to say that anything is possible. I am not going to pretend missing the playoffs is a certainty. but you said it, a lot has to go right for the Flames to make it.

I think it is less about everything going right just less wrong. Everything going right would be a Vezina level season from Markstrom and Huberdeau producing 115 points. That probably gets them top of the division.
A PPG season from Hubderdeau and career average save pct from Markstrom probably has them in the playoff picture.

[Flame On]

Also, let's not forget last season wasn't just about things going wrong. There was a depressed feeling in the player's room from the coach which is now gone. There's hopefully going to be a much bigger focus on freedom of play and offense. The fourth line is gone (loved 'em but had to happen). There are a lot of things from a baseline standpoint that are going to be better about this year.
So even if those same things are wrong this year (highly unlikely) those other factors will have some benefit. Things like Markstrom being exactly as bad, Hubby under-delivering, etc. etc.

[Vinny01]

Wings grabbed Petry so they likely takes them out on Hanifin

[BrennyBaller]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People got pretty excited about the Kings' prospects but it hasn't really materialized, you have Kopitar aging out (and Doughty is 32 as well), and I'm not sold on Korpisalo either.

Korpisalo signed with Ottawa. The Kings signed Talbot. They will be running a tandem of Talbot/Copley or Talbot/Rittich which is funny.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Sec214

For what it's worth. I can confirm Hanifin is being shopped heavily... two most interested teams are Detriot and Buffalo. The snag with one of these teams was the extension.

People rag on Calgary all the time but who wouldn't choose Calgary 10 times out of 10 if your choices are Buffalo and Detroit! lol.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wings grabbed Petry so they likely takes them out on Hanifin

Maybe hanifin is heading somewhere else so the wings pivoted

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

People rag on Calgary all the time but who wouldn't choose Calgary 10 times out of 10 if your choices are Buffalo and Detroit! lol.

I don't know about Buffalo but the rich parts of the Detroit metro are nice

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Just catching up on this thread... man, some of you are terrible negotiators. Of course, no one is throwing away all their top prospects to acquire Hanifin. But the flipside is that if the deal doesn't cause some pain on the other side, you are not getting value. No way the Flames should accept a proposal like 1st + Maata + avg prospect - they can do better than that at the deadline, without breaking a sweat.

There is value in acquiring Hanifin before the season starts, as that allows the team to integrate him into the system all year. That should add a premium to the deal. A fair deal (now) is to start with a deadline valuation, add a premium for getting him now, and maybe add a bit of a topper if there is some salary dump coming back.

But some of these garbage proposals being thrown around are non-starters.

On the other hand some are throwing out multiple top picks and prospects for the guy. Let's be real, the Chycrun deal is about all they can hope for, and I think Chycrun has slightly more value for offensive upside. And he took like a year to trade. Flames have time but not that kind of time.

I am in favor of taking all these guys to the deadline and with a good team, sign some and trade some. That's how you max out their value in terms of helping you win now and getting great returns.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wings grabbed Petry so they likely takes them out on Hanifin

Tells me they only wanted Hanifin if they could get him for a song if that is the pivot they took. Not much of a comparable between Petry and Hanifin.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Maybe hanifin is heading somewhere else so the wings pivoted

Or yzerman said, we need a D, we are going to trade for Petry for "X" unless you guys have something you want to do for Hanifin. Which lines up with Sec's news about Conroy and scouts active on the weekend.

X = some gustav guy and a 4th.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don't know about Buffalo but the rich parts of the Detroit metro are nice

Still Detroit prob isn't the best of places if he has kids or is thinking of having kids.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Flames finished 16th last year, in a year when everything went wrong. So your assuming with everything going right, they'll to battle extra hard to get where they were last year?

I dont believe in Huberdeau at all. And Markstrom even less. they haven't earned my blind faith. Not personally loosing us games all year would be an improvement. They were unwatchable!
I'm not gonna wish with this team. They are what they are to me until they prove different! I just hope I can watch a game next season without falling asleep or changing the channel.

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