2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Lindholm becomes enemy no.1 on this team with that contract. He goes stretches where you have no clue he is playing on offence, especially last season. At 9 million he needs to be producing like he was with JG and MT and I do not think he is capable of that.

Luckily Huberdeau isn't going anywhere....Lindholm will never come close to living up to that contract and the last 4 years could be UGLY once he's more of a 3C putting up 40-50 points.

[Zulu29]

9 mil for 8 years???? Sorry Elias but gtfo

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I highly doubt he's going to be able to sign with a decent team for that kind of money. Especially if he has another 60 point season too.

Maybe a few bottom feeders will go that high, but I don't see it.

Oh I think there is zero chance he signs somewhere next summer. He will either sign with the Flames or with whatever team he gets traded too

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I have always liked Lindholm, and I think he's under-rated by some. But I don't want to commit 8 X $9M for him, with where the franchise is right now.

That is how I feel. I am sure he will age well with that contract and still be a 60 point elite defensive center at the end of it. He is a top 10 200 foot player in the league right now and that type of hockey smarts does not disappear the same way raw skill can. He is not Phil Kessel.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Elias will give up over 10 million if he goes elsewhere, guaranteed.

This is why he's probably sitting on the offer

Wrestling between being discontent with the Flames situation/outlook and the allure of extra $ he won't get by moving on.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

9 mil for 8 years???? Sorry Elias but gtfo

If that’s the offer and he did not accept it immediately one would hope the Flames would have some balls and say that to his face.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Elias will give up over 10 million if he goes elsewhere, guaranteed.

This is why he's probably sitting on the offer

Wrestling between being discontent with the Flames situation/outlook and the allure of extra $ he won't get by moving on.

Lindholm isn't signing for 7.75 anywhere lol

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Muffins

8x9 is a bit much but not insane.

If he's asking for any more than that at this point I think it's time to move on. That should be best and final from the Flames.

True. At least Elias would be full value for a few of those years.

Unlike the Huberdeau contract where I don't think he'll live up to the cap hit throughout.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Lindholm isn't signing for 7.75 anywhere lol

I think he means:

9 x 8, or 8.5 x 7. Loses over 10m with the latter.

[Drunk Uncle]

From a % of cap perspective the offer is right where it should be. If it's a premium, the premium is less than $350k a year. Not sure it's worth getting hot and bothered about.

Horvat Contract: 10.3% of cap
Lindholm offer: 10.8% of cap

Forwards in that bracket:

Matt Barzal 11.1% of cap
Kirill Kaprizov 11.0% of cap
Ryan Johansen 10.7% of cap
Patrick Laine 10.5% of cap
Dylan Larkin 10.5% of cap
Timo Meier 10.5% of cap
Mika Zibanejad 10.4% of cap
Evgeny Kuznetsov 10.4% of cap
Sebastial Aho 10.4% of cap
Blake Wheeler 10.4% of cap

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think he means:

9 x 8, or 8.5 x 7. Loses over 10m with the latter.

Yeah. I think there is zero chance Lindholm isn’t signed somewhere this summer though. My guess is he signs here or is gone by first week of July

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Drunk Uncle

From a % of cap perspective the offer is right where it should be. If it's a premium, the premium is less than $350k a year. Not sure it's worth getting hot and bothered about.

Horvat Contract: 10.3% of cap
Lindholm offer: 10.8% of cap

Forwards in that bracket:

Matt Barzal 11.1% of cap
Kirill Kaprizov 11.0% of cap
Ryan Johansen 10.7% of cap
Patrick Laine 10.5% of cap
Dylan Larkin 10.5% of cap
Timo Meier 10.5% of cap
Mika Zibanejad 10.4% of cap
Evgeny Kuznetsov 10.4% of cap
Sebastial Aho 10.4% of cap
Blake Wheeler 10.4% of cap

Difference being the age of those players. I would gladly trade Lindholm 1 for 1 for barzal, or aho

[genetic_phreek]

Has there been any team in the league that had 3+ players that were locked up until they were 37/38 years old?

If we do extend Lindholm, we would have four contracts that were locked up until guys are 37+.

Huberdeau
Kadri
Weegar
Possibly Lindholm

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Difference being the age of those players. I would gladly trade Lindholm 1 for 1 for barzal, or aho

Lindholm at 29-37 may be a contract you can stomach but not when they already have Huberdeau signed from 30-38 and Kadri from 33-37.

[MrMike]

I like what Conroy said when he wants people who want to be here.

Fair offer? Done I love the City

Not squeeze an extra 2 mill over 8 years.

He's not Crosby, He's not Gaudreau or Tkachuk. What Drink does he stir?

Please do not over pay him with losing the assets that he will bring in.

[Jason14h]

SJ business model !

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Has there been any team in the league that had 3+ players that were locked up until they were 37/38 years old?

If we do extend Lindholm, we would have four contracts that were locked up until guys are 37+.

Huberdeau
Kadri
Weegar
Possibly Lindholm

SJ had what seemed like half their team locked up till that age at one point.

[StrykerSteve]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674180876643581952

[bluejays]

Flames are the desperate bridesmaids here. They see all their friends getting married and are afraid of their perception. It doesn't matter what Lindholm will get elsewhere. The Flames are definitely not near the top of the division, nor will be in the next bit to have so many vets locked up. It just goes completely against logic to be doing this. Terrible. Shame on them if they did it.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Muffins

SJ had what seemed like half their team locked up till that age at one point.

Forgot about them.