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Old 06-28-2023, 03:40 PM   #2521
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Quinn, Rosen, Krebs, Peterka, Savoie!!! Would take any of the above from Buffalo.
Kulich, Ostlund, 13th ov

Buffalo has a great pipeline of prospects which makes them a great trading partner, but seems like the Flames aren't fully going that route
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:40 PM   #2522
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He was third wheel on that top line and wants Tkachuk money.

Just sell the dude already no thank you.
I don't disagree but the contract isn't a ridiculous offer. On the small chance he gets traded, he will get at least 8.5 this summer
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:41 PM   #2523
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That offer reeks of desperation. Embarrassing.
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I don't disagree but the contract isn't a ridiculous offer. On the small chance he gets traded, he will get at least 8.5 this summer
If he gets traded to a team where he gets placed in a second line center role he may be lucky to get a 8 next year.

If he is turning down 9 x 8 from us don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:44 PM   #2525
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If he gets traded to a team where he gets placed in a second line center role he may be lucky to get a 8 next year.

If he is turning down 9 x 8 from us don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
We’ll see I’ll take the over on 8 pretty easily if I team trades for him this summer. It will be a sign and trade.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:45 PM   #2526
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That salary demand is going to hurt his trade value unless the team acquiring him is happy having a cheap 1 year rental.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:46 PM   #2527
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Why wouldn't he ask for as much, if not more than him?
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That is about what he is worth.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:46 PM   #2528
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If we're talking Toronto, how about just Hanifin for Nylander and we keep Tanev?
This may have already been addressed....but why would one want Nylander at this point?

He is going to command 9 or 10M per on a 7 or 8 year deal after the next season.

One 10M per winger on this team is more than enough already.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:47 PM   #2529
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We’ll see I’ll take the over on 8 pretty easily if I team trades for him this summer. It will be a sign and trade.
I'd take the over on 8 as well, but he's turning down 9. Do you take the over on 9?
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Nylander wants 10
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:47 PM   #2531
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So the Flames are just upping the offer until he decides he wants to be in Calgary then? There is no way that Conroy is driving that bus. This reeks of Edwards rubbing his hands all over this negotiation.

How could anyone in hockey ops think that it is a good idea to have $26M + AAV tied up in 3 declining forwards into their late 30s? Nobody could be that dense in this day and age. And yes, Lindholm is at or will be at his peak in the next 2 years.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:47 PM   #2532
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You really think this is the hive mind position on CP? It's like 3:1 or 4:1 of people trying to justify/defend what appears to be the Flames "new" direction.

Would make a good poll.
To be fair - you're 100% right, there is no hivemind. It just feels that way sometimes. There is definitely a spectrum of opinions on most everything the team does, even if it feels like a certain point-of-view is more vocal on a particular issue.

Attributing it to the hivemind is lazy shorthand on my part.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:49 PM   #2533
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If Lindy won’t sign for that much, just trade the guy


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Old 06-28-2023, 03:51 PM   #2534
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So they couldn’t overpay tkachuk as an RFA but willing to overpay everyone on a sub par roster after he’s gone. Great
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:54 PM   #2535
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So they couldn’t overpay tkachuk as an RFA but willing to overpay everyone on a sub par roster after he’s gone. Great
I think part of this is Edwards' ego. It was tarnished last off-season and he's trying to save face right now, even if it means vastly overpaying for Lindholm.
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I'd take the over on 8 as well, but he's turning down 9. Do you take the over on 9?
Columbus might?
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:59 PM   #2537
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Was listening to Kyper and Bourne radio show and Futa was the guest and said he heard Flames offered Lindholm a $72M contract. God damn, run. What are they doing? Locking down a bunch of guys in a few years will be on the senior circuit 4th line. Much rather they deal him and get a hefty return, and being comfortable with dealing most of the valuable guys for a young retool. The second he signs that 8 year deal for that much his value is going to poop.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:04 PM   #2538
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I don't disagree but the contract isn't a ridiculous offer. On the small chance he gets traded, he will get at least 8.5 this summer
I highly doubt he's going to be able to sign with a decent team for that kind of money. Especially if he has another 60 point season too.

Maybe a few bottom feeders will go that high, but I don't see it.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:04 PM   #2539
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Lindholm becomes enemy no.1 on this team with that contract. He goes stretches where you have no clue he is playing on offence, especially last season. At 9 million he needs to be producing like he was with JG and MT and I do not think he is capable of that. He has not shown the level of play those two did.
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:04 PM   #2540
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I have always liked Lindholm, and I think he's under-rated by some. But I don't want to commit 8 X $9M for him, with where the franchise is right now.
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