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Old 06-26-2023, 10:47 AM   #1521
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I'll take Jack Quinn + 1st. Please and thank you.
That would be incredible.
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Why not retain on Lindholm and Mangiapane too? Opens up the amount of teams that can fit them in.
Has Mangiapane been rumored at all to be on the block?
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:47 AM   #1523
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I doubt Edvinsson is on the table. He's a foundational piece for them. And they have other assets they can bundle together.
Beggren is perhaps a guy that fits the "not too far away" insight.
DET 2023 1st (17 OA)
Berggren
Wallinder

That’s a pretty appealing package.
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Mine are named after a witch, an actress and a character from Aliens. Gotta have some fun with it.
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I wouldn't have thought RW is a big Seattle need, with Eberle, Bjorkstrand, Geekie and Sprong, and with Firkus in the wings. Maybe anticipating some hard RFA negotiations and a different deal to trade off Geekie and/or Sprong.
If they can get Toffoli at 50% and it isn't working out then they will be able to salvage most of the value at the deadline I'd bet
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It's U.S.A or bust for Hanifin isn't it? I think he'd look at Buffallo and be happy. That's a solid D corps they'd be putting him into.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:49 AM   #1527
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Sabrina, Jennifer, and Hudson?
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:49 AM   #1528
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Eat bread at his current cap hit following his most recent season probably doesn't have much value on the market.

Still young enough to be part of things if he figures his #### out.

I could see him being one of the guys that suffered a bit under Sutter last year.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:49 AM   #1529
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Has Mangiapane been rumored at all to be on the block?
Sorry, I meant Hanifin. Had Mangiapane on my mind since I believe next summer we'll see a similar situation with him on the way out with 1 year left.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:49 AM   #1531
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I really like that deal

30 + 62 + Jarvis

Likely a sign and trade (good thing Conroy learned directly from the GM that started that trend)

It would also make sense for it to be Carolina if Conroy is waiting to see other offers… would not surprise me if they really only have Lindholm as their target. Since they’re pick being late in the draft, the flames could wait through a portion of the first round to see if there are better offers with higher picks involved. If not, they take the Carolina offer.

That first round pick from Carolina is low and he might be hoping someone like Pittsburgh steps up offering their first round pick (14th overall). They wouldn’t have a prospect/young player as good as Jarvis though so they would likely have to add another first round pick (2024/2025) to the package.


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Old 06-26-2023, 10:50 AM   #1532
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DET 2023 1st (17 OA)
Berggren
Wallinder

That’s a pretty appealing package.
It works. My previous point was you'd get a better overall package getting 17th OA instead of 9th.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:50 AM   #1533
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An interesting team to watch - Ottawa, They are going to flip Debrincat and try to use those assets to bring in another goal scorer that fits their age window.
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The returns that Conroy could fetch for:

- Lindholm
- Hanifin
- Toffoli (50% retained)
- Backlund (50% retained)
- Tanev (50% retained)

Would act as the backbone for an entirely new build of the Calgary Flames. I don't think retention is as important on Lindholm and Hanifin, because the teams that I'd expect to be targeting players like that (and going after long-term extensions) have the cap space available this year to easily swallow their sub-$5M salaries.

Maximizing returns on Backs, Toff, and Tanev though would be to ship those guys to contenders on the brink (Leafs, Rangers, Canes?) where they're likely looking to minimize salary intake at all costs.

This is why I hope Conroy does it this Summer. This is the tear down Summer in my eyes and provides us the shortest path to a new beginning.

Summer 2023: Rip down.

Season 2023/2024: No significant adds, trade off bits at the deadline, maximize your own 2024 1st round pick

Summer 2024: Do whatever. You want to go right back to spending like a mad-man in free agency? Fine...but at least we restocked in in 2023/2024.
And if you have a good young core, and potentially have a ton of cap space available you could potentially take advantage of what could be a strong UFA class in 2024 and 2025.

It's always subject to change due to re-signings but...

2024: Nylander, Matthews, Stamkos, Montour, Guentzel, Scheifele, Reinhart, Aho, Stephenson, Lindholm Debrusk, Toews

2024: Draisaitl, Rantanen, Marner, Kuzmenko, Verhaeghe, Buchnevich, Konecny, Boeser, Theodore, Bennett, Ekblad, EHlers

Of course not all these guys will make it to market. But you will have options to supplement a young core if you time this correctly and have the cap space available.
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Sabrina, Jennifer, and Hudson?
Good guesses, lol. Dahlia, Sienna and Hudson.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:51 AM   #1536
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I'm sure Hanifin would be really pumped to play for Boston. Their 1st would be very late though, so not ideal. However, I could see their 1st in 2024 or 2025 being pretty good....
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An interesting team to watch - Ottawa, They are going to flip Debrincat and try to use those assets to bring in another goal scorer that fits their age window.
Tyler Toffoli, come on down.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:51 AM   #1538
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Backlund, Giordano, and Brodie all come to mind. How many have they lost, that they actually wanted to retain?
Kept Glencross and Bourque.
Backlund and Brodie were both RFAs when they signed their last contracts with the Flames.
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Old 06-26-2023, 10:51 AM   #1539
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I really like that deal

30 + 62 + Jarvis

Likely a sign and trade (good thing Conroy learned directly from the GM that started that trend)
Can't be a sign by Calgary until after the draft.

I think if Jarvis is involved (and he's a great get), you wouldn't in any event be getting the 30th and 62 in 2023 picks. Maybe a 2024 pick.

Jarvis is a huge get IMO.
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I'm sure Hanifin would be really pumped to play for Boston. Their 1st would be very late though, so not ideal. However, I could see their 1st in 2024 or 2025 being pretty good....
They no 1st till 2025.
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