[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Uhm, but they are still dead. That's the point, nothing was fixed, the problem was just pushed onto hospitals.


"Good news, we got here in time to save your life! Bad news, you are still gonna die when we drop you in this hallway with no one to check on you."


I shouldn't be surprised, but this is apparently the logic people use to vote for the UCP. And then people wonder why their intelligence is questioned.

Clearly, the situation is best if the person does not die under either circumstance. You know thats the point, you just want to try and get your little barb in.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

What do you mean type of people, people move for many different reasons. In the New York thread some are suggesting the OP move to Texas or Florida instead of New York. Do they suddenly become that type of person. Don't classify.

Are they Republican voters? Are they part of the LGBTQ community? Are they snowbirds escaping the winters? Migration statistics are only one layer of the story; there are many reasons why someone moves, and to where.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

And this hasn't happened in the city? Racism and Homophobia are exclusive to rural Alberta? Did not know that.

If youre brave enough to venture outside the city, it's like walking into Mordor, except its run by nazis.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

You tell me? Our healthcare system is under attack. We have a deplorable who doesn’t care about compassion as our Premier. Vaccine hesitancy is only going to go up. People will be lured more to the idea of freedom and brainwashed by all the negative things associated with it. All this will embolden the very real threat of white supremacy and diminish minority rights - just look at some of the replies in this thread. The uneducated and careless are in control of the destiny of our province. It is a dark day for democracy in Canada. Drastic measures need to be taken to prevent this from happening again.

How drastic are we talking here?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

You tell me? Our healthcare system is under attack. We have a deplorable who doesn’t care about compassion as our Premier. Vaccine hesitancy is only going to go up. People will be lured more to the idea of freedom and brainwashed by all the negative things associated with it. All this will embolden the very real threat of white supremacy and diminish minority rights - just look at some of the replies in this thread. The uneducated and careless are in control of the destiny of our province. It is a dark day for democracy in Canada. Drastic measures need to be taken to prevent this from happening again.

Good idea. Government by appointment - enough of these pesky elections and democratic process.

In fact, let's just make it hereditary. I will humbly accept the burden as Albertas first Grand Archduke, first of His House.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Justin Trudeau isn’t a random person. He is the PM of this country. He hates Alberta and has flat out said as much.

I guess we ain't getting a source.......

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

You tell me? Our healthcare system is under attack. We have a deplorable who doesn’t care about compassion as our Premier. Vaccine hesitancy is only going to go up. People will be lured more to the idea of freedom and brainwashed by all the negative things associated with it. All this will embolden the very real threat of white supremacy and diminish minority rights - just look at some of the replies in this thread. The uneducated and careless are in control of the destiny of our province. It is a dark day for democracy in Canada. Drastic measures need to be taken to prevent this from happening again.

Are you suggesting that some sort of moral or intellectual authority is required to oversee who can and can't vote though? This is some bat#### extremist ideology.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

I think a lot of people need to look themselves in the mirror this morning for how vitriolic they've acted towards UCP supporters in recent weeks.

In this thread alone UCP voters have been called stupid, bigots and racists numerous times, compared to Orcs from LOTR for supporting freedom of choice when it comes to personal medical decisions, and even declared the entire conservative ideology as neo-fascists on post #90 with a bunch of likes from the usual suspects.

Its ugly, elitist, and incredibly intolerant behavior that probably contributed to the loss by not being able to swing more people on the fence to vote for the NDP.

You'll never win "hearts and minds" by berating people as stupid, bigoted morons for having differences of opinion from you.

I don’t think there is any point whatsoever in trying to win the hearts and minds of those who with all the information available, took the conscious decision to vote for people who compared people looking after their health and the health of others to Nazis. Or those that compared children to ####.

They’re lost - the goal needs to be to try and win the hearts and minds of those that didn’t vote at at all because they weren’t ready to vote for the NDP but couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the stink the UCP has become.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I guess we ain't getting a source.......

He's searching for the perfect one (out of many sources out there), I'm sure of it!

[Wastedyouth]

ynwa03 might be the greatest troll I have ever seen. Kudos.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Muta

Source?

LOL, that'll happen

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Muta

Are they Republican voters? Are they part of the LGBTQ community? Are they snowbirds escaping the winters? Migration statistics are only one layer of the story; there are many reasons why someone moves, and to where.

Could be all of those. As I've mentioned, the cities are extremely liberal. Houston and Tampa for example have been democrat/liberal for decades.

It's like how overall Alberta is conservative but Edmonton is not so people could move to Edmonton (i know i know). If you overheard someone moving to Alberta, do you immediately make assumptions without knowing where?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Uhm, but they are still dead. That's the point, nothing was fixed, the problem was just pushed onto hospitals.


"Good news, we got here in time to save your life! Bad news, you are still gonna die when we drop you in this hallway with no one to check on you."


I shouldn't be surprised, but this is apparently the logic people use to vote for the UCP. And then people wonder why their intelligence is questioned.

Will their obituary read " Died peacefully in a hospital corridor " or will decorum be retained but with an asterisk " Died peacefully at home* ".

[Muta]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Could be all of those. As I've mentioned, the cities are extremely liberal. Houston and Tampa for example have been democrat/liberal for decades.

It's like how overall Alberta is conservative but Edmonton is not so people could move to Edmonton (i know i know). If you overheard someone moving to Alberta, do you immediately make assumptions without knowing where?

Who's making assumptions? There's tons of reasons why someone would move to Florida. There's also tons of reasons why someone would not move to Florida. I'm not sure what you're trying to battle here.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Are you suggesting that some sort of moral or intellectual authority is required to oversee who can and can't vote though? This is some bat#### extremist ideology.

Do you agree that some voters are racist, misogynistic deplorables? Some voters are uneducated and ignorant? Some are easily fooled and confused? These people all vote for the wrong party every time. For a party that either panders to their extreme and racist views, or who do not have their interests at heart.

Do you also agree that elections and governance is too important a process and outcome to leave up to the whims of people and partys who are operating in bad faith?

If so, then why is what I am saying extreme??

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

ynwa03 might be the greatest troll I have ever seen. Kudos.

It was dumb and pathetic. You thought it was the greatest?

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Muta

He's searching for the perfect one (out of many sources out there), I'm sure of it!

Sorry man, was just busy working. Trying to contribute something positive to this province instead of bitching and moaning all day on the internet.

[CliffFletcher]

Alberta spends more per capita on health care than B.C or Ontario. Much of the revenue spent on health care comes from energy royalties. Maintaining those spending levels - never mind increasing them - means some combination of:

A) Keeping oil and gas activity high.

B) Increasing taxes to the levels of other provinces (ie introduce a PST).

C) Running growing deficits.

Any party interested in ‘addressing health care’ needs to be honest about these options. The UCP are honest about the importance of A, but are dishonest in not acknowledging that global oil prices are outside their control. Neither party seems interested in B, because they want to get elected. And the easy way out for both would be relying on C (though the UCP are probably more deficit-adverse than the NDP).

Jim Prentince was speaking the truth about government entitlements and public finances when he said Albertans need to ‘look in the mirror.’ And look where that got him politically.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Clearly, the situation is best if the person does not die under either circumstance. You know thats the point, you just want to try and get your little barb in.

So you accept the premise that they didn't actually if anything, they just moved the problem? And that's not my conclusion, that's from the doctors. Or do you not believe them?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Do you agree that some voters are racist, misogynistic deplorables? Some voters are uneducated and ignorant? Some are easily fooled and confused? These people all vote for the wrong party every time. For a party that either panders to their extreme and racist views, or who do not have their interests at heart.

Do you also agree that elections and governance is too important a process and outcome to leave up to the whims of people and partys who are operating in bad faith?

If so, then why is what I am saying extreme??

Your right! Down with democracy! When do we march on the capital? Should I take Friday off work?

You are just as scary in your line of thought as the deplorables that you are coming out against.