[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[Muta]

I'm curious as to how the UCP will begin to retain Canadian-trained doctors, especially ones trained right here in this province. This will be a real challenge, as they have a deplorable reputation amongst the healthcare circles (yet they'll tell you in the public that healthcare is improving - it's not).

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Uhhhhh no. That’s a seriously bad take.

Sure, explain why, bigot.

[sketchyt]

My takeaway: despite the tirefire of the UCP (who are objectively not conservatives), if you told me 20 years ago the NDP would have gained this much ground and given Albertans a viable voting option, I would've thought you were smoking crack.

Lots of progress was made this election.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by aaronck

LOL- I bet you have. Name one

I know several paramedics, on their side, things have become much better. They dont have to wait for hours on end in the hospital with patients and can get back to the core of their duties and respond to calls where they are needed. Did it fix the system, no, not by a long shot. But their presence in waiting rooms was doing very little on that end either.



Also, not all healthcare see the NDP as the only option for fixing the system, I know many nurses who voted UCP. Issues are not black and white like we all believe they are sometimes.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I’ve talked to paramedics she deserves the credit.

What you meant to write was that you tweeted at them.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

If you don't appreciate being called a bigot, then don't vote for a party who nominates and elects bigots. It's a transitive property. You elected bigots, you are a bigot. There's not much to this. Doesn't matter what your reasons were, doesn't matter if you like your individual candidate, the result is that you've elected a group into power that aids and includes vocal bigots. Thus, you are a bigot.

You can decide whether that makes you an idiot. I think so.

What a stupid ####ing post this is.

[Fuzz]

Voting for the UCP came down to one of two things, whether those voters want to admit it or not. Either you are ignorant to Smith and her actions and words, or you are fully aware of them, and voted to endorse those actions. That mean you have given permission for the premier to break the rule of law if she feels like it. You don't get to vote for the UCP and say "well, I don't support her actions, I like my MLA" because that's exactly what you have done. You've authorized her to break laws.



So pick one of those, ignorance, or no ####s given. Any other thought in your head is just lying to yourself.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

What a stupid ####ing post this is.

Challenge it then. You don't believe 50% of Ontario woke up thinking we weren't a group of unwashed bigots this morning? Call your friends and find out.

[Monahammer]

A lady who compared Trans people to literal #### won her riding. If you live in that riding and voted for her, you are a bigot.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I know several paramedics, on their side, things have become much better. They dont have to wait for hours on end in the hospital with patients and can get back to the core of their duties and respond to calls where they are needed. Did it fix the system, no, not by a long shot. But their presence in waiting rooms was doing very little on that end either.

I do find it interesting how the people defending this as some sort of Danielle Smith win have only "talked too" paramedics, but the people in this thread that actually are paramedics have been saying the opposite

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

UCP voters this time "don't call me names, I'm a human being and my option matters."

UCP voters any other election "you aren't voting UCP? What are you, stupid?"

They complain about name calling while voting in the kind of people (and the actual people) who call kids “pieces of ####” and call people they don’t agree with “nazis.”

UCP voters have fewer legs to stand on than a dinghy.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Challenge it then. You don't believe 50% of Ontario woke up thinking we weren't a group of unwashed bigots this morning? Call your friends and find out.

Why do you even care? You seem to be very caught up in what other people you don't know, and will never know, think of you, a person they don't know.

Get over yourself.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

For the record, that transitive property is now applied to all Albertans by those outside of the province, regardless of who you voted for individually. It's a transitive property for all of us, we as a province elected bigots and thus we will be seen as bigots by others.

I don’t know about that. I interact with a lot of people from across the country and I highly doubt any of them will consider me to be a bigot because half of my province voted for a less than ideal party.

I know a lot of people are frustrated with the results but as someone who will likely be negatively impacted by what this government does I still don’t think perpetuating the us vs them mentality is going to be helpful right now.

[FunkMasterFlame]

I think a lot of people need to look themselves in the mirror this morning for how vitriolic they've acted towards UCP supporters in recent weeks.

In this thread alone UCP voters have been called stupid, bigots and racists numerous times, compared to Orcs from LOTR for supporting freedom of choice when it comes to personal medical decisions, and even declared the entire conservative ideology as neo-fascists on post #90 with a bunch of likes from the usual suspects.

Its ugly, elitist, and incredibly intolerant behavior that probably contributed to the loss by not being able to swing more people on the fence to vote for the NDP.

You'll never win "hearts and minds" by berating people as stupid, bigoted morons for having differences of opinion from you.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Why do you even care? You seem to be very caught up in what other people you don't know, and will never know, think of you, a person they don't know.

Get over yourself.

I know many people in Ontario. I was born there. Just because you still live in Mom's basement in taber doesn't mean the rest of us failed to launch.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

For the record, that transitive property is now applied to all Albertans by those outside of the province, regardless of who you voted for individually. It's a transitive property for all of us, we as a province elected bigots and thus we will be seen as bigots by others.

The problem is we were already all viewed that way by most outside of Alberta. That’s part of the problem. It just fuels the us vs them sentiment. I published a national magazine for 30 years, and the anti-Alberta bigotry I ran into was shocking and depressing. I understand why some Albertans feel like their back is up against a wall. I don’t support that sentiment, but I understand it. Only half of the problem lies within our borders. The other half is fueled by federal politics that has used Alberta as a political football, and a national media that has helped feed this narrative.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I know many people in Ontario. I was born there. Just because you still live in Mom's basement in taber doesn't mean the rest of us failed to launch.

Your emotional lashing out is very childish.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I don’t know about that. I interact with a lot of people from across the country and I highly doubt any of them will consider me to be a bigot because half of my province voted for a less than ideal party.

I know a lot of people are frustrated with the results but as someone who will likely be negatively impacted by what this government does I still don’t think perpetuating the us vs them mentality is going to be helpful right now.

No, you're right, they won't think *you* are directly, if they know you. But they will think *Albertans* are, and that will disadvantage you as an Albertan with people you haven't yet met.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

What a stupid ####ing post this is.

At best, you’re “not” a bigot but find bigotry so unimportant that you’re willing to vote in bigots regardless of that character trait.

Not sure that’s something to pat yourself on the back about.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Your emotional lashing out is very childish.

"get over yourself"
Yes, I am the one who emotionally lashed out at you. It's hard to look at oneself in the mirror when all you can see are #### cookies.