[News] Darryl Sutter out as Head Coach. Maloney presser at 11:30 AM MT

[browna]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I've never had much of an opinion one way or the other about Eric Francis as I'm not in the Calgary media environment and don't pay attention to him much, but between his tweet yesterday and this video I find him terribly unlikable. He's so joyful reveling in someone getting fired and in airing the dirty laundry.

This is his opportunity to do an ego stroke and trot himself as the Flames insider and have the opportunity to go on no name shows and podcasts like the YouTube video.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

disagree. especially if you've read CP over the last few years. It's been a common refrain.
Even your posts says "should", not that he was a playoffs performer.

Even up to a few weeks ago, some here were giving him no credit for his last 2 seasons as "he hasn't done anything in the playoffs"

“Some” may not give him credit, but I didn’t see much, if anything, in the way of him not being built for the playoffs. Fans might not want him to do well, or are indifferent now that he plays for another team, but I don’t think his competitiveness was ever questioned.

[browna]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They did generally have good starts. And then they let the first shot be a two on one or breakaway. Almost counterproductive.

It’d be halfway through the second, Flames would be completely dominating the game and pace and shot clock, but a bad goal against, two posts hit, and it would be only 2-1 when it should’ve been 4-0.

Then a Pp goal against, bad few minutes, and by mid third it’s 3-2 the other team, or 3-3 and they lose in OT.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^ fortunately it’s over. No more of that. Thank god

Funny thing is, with absolutely no clue who the GM and coach will be, I am excited for next season

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by TheChief

One thing about Sutter is that in general he always had the boys ready to play.

I had a lot more fun watching Hartley hockey. This year if the team was down in the third with the goalie pulled, you may as well shut the game off. It was amazing how they were never able to turn on the offence and dominate when desperation time hit.

[Hack&Lube]

Steve Dangle streamed the whole Leafs Panthers game 1 on Youtube and basically said he had no idea how a Calgary Flames team with Bennett and Tkachuk was a failure under Darryl Sutter, and how Bennett could not even get quality ice time.

Bear in mind, this was basically the same team with Gaudreau, Lindholm, Giordano (and Dougie and Brodie?). Absolute failure of coaching under Gulutzan, Peters, and Sutter.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Steve Dangle streamed the whole Leafs Panthers game 1 on Youtube and basically said he had no idea how a Calgary Flames team with Bennett and Tkachuk was a failure under Darryl Sutter, and how Bennett could not even get quality ice time.

Bennett didn't play for Sutter that long really.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

^ fortunately it’s over. No more of that. Thank god

Funny thing is, with absolutely no clue who the GM and coach will be, I am excited for next season

Have you seen the players we have coming back?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Have you seen the players we have coming back?

Yes

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Have you seen the players we have coming back?

No, and neither have you.

There are any one of a dozen ways this roster could be reshaped over the next three months.

[iamca]

Results driven and the results weren’t there.

Coaching decisions versus a toxic/difficult work environment are very different aspects of this.

Putting your 4th line out with less than 2 minutes to go and you’re down by a goal= coaching decision

Making inappropriate or disparaging comments about your players in a press conference=toxic behavior and not a positive workplace.


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[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Steve Dangle streamed the whole Leafs Panthers game 1 on Youtube and basically said he had no idea how a Calgary Flames team with Bennett and Tkachuk was a failure under Darryl Sutter, and how Bennett could not even get quality ice time.

Bear in mind, this was basically the same team with Gaudreau, Lindholm, Giordano (and Dougie and Brodie?). Absolute failure of coaching under Gulutzan, Peters, and Sutter.

Well he didn't really research what happened with Bennett then. Sutter was brought in and he really started to turn a huge corner under him, and then the long planned trading of Bennett happened right around then.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

^ fortunately it’s over. No more of that. Thank god

Funny thing is, with absolutely no clue who the GM and coach will be, I am excited for next season

It can’t get worse is how I’m looking at it.

[icarus]

Just my two cents.

Personally I was okay with Sutter up until the end of the season, but the Nick Ritchie shootout decision with the season on the line really made me think the team needed a new direction.

Probably someone who understands the importance of 3-on-3 OT and SO in the modern game (no point in having a team built for 5-on-5 OT if you can't make the playoffs).

Whoever comes in now, I want them to give everyone on the Wranglers a fair shot with the big club because that team looks like a great cornerstone for the franchise from which to build.

[Hack&Lube]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...nymous_hockey/

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...nymous_hockey/

I just downloaded that app out of curiosity (It’s called The Sports Aux if anyone else is interested) and saw that Torts of all people got a more positive review than Sutter did:

Spoiler!

But I’m sure there’s some players who would give Darryl a positive review

[Erick Estrada]

No surprise about Torts as unlike Sutter he doesn't play favorites with certain players and vets as it doesn't matter if you are a franchise player, grisled vet, or rookie you will sit if you aren't pulling your weight he will bench them. It makes things much simpler for players when they know that if they work hard they will play no matter who they are. It's the uncertainty and mind games that drive players crazy.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

No surprise about Torts as unlike Sutter he doesn't play favorites with certain players and vets as it doesn't matter if you are a franchise player, grisled vet, or rookie you will sit if you aren't pulling your weight he will bench them. It makes things much simpler for players when they know that if they work hard they will play no matter who they are. It's the uncertainty and mind games that drive players crazy.

Yeah, if you play hard for Torts he will throw himself on media grenades for you.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Here’s player reviews that Mitch Love got from the app

Spoiler!

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

No, and neither have you.

There are any one of a dozen ways this roster could be reshaped over the next three months.

I can't see it but I hope so. One of the major issues with this roster is that I think it is pretty inflexible what you can do with because of the many unmovable deals and players that aren't good enough to win you anything but good enough to ensure that you don't win anything. I can't see anyway forward we can remake this roster into the rebuild, young team with an exciting potential that we need.

I will also say that (unlike most people here) there isn't a player on the team that I would care if we lost from the roster, from a skill perspective and personal perspective. There is nobody on the team or prospect group I feel a strong connection to or am a huge fan. I know many would point to someone like Wolf, but I have seen too much goalie voodoo to get excited about a goalie prospect or Coronato, but to me he looks like just another ok prospect that might have an ok-ish career. I think having no player that grabs your attention or that I see as key to the team probably skews my view.