[PGT] Flames lose 3-2, playoff hopes extinguished

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

We can’t have it both ways

If the Flames have an analytics department, and they know they are 31st in cross zone passes, and they don’t plan to improve on that, then is it not a clearly acceptable byproduct of the game plan?

Pointed out in another post that it looks like they did just that ... adjusted.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I just hope that on Thursday or Friday we have the news that Darryl has been relieved of his duties,

I might be wrong but I wouldn't count on it.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Username checks out

Give the guy a break...English likely not his first language...and possibly, as he says...a "new fan". Nothing wrong there.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

I might be wrong but I wouldn't count on it.

Then you would be an idiot to renew your season tickets. I mean you would have to pay me to attend a game watching this kind of hockey....

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Bingo

First off I don't see the past as a lock on what happens in the future.

Different people in different roles in different times with different rosters. And people can change their minds / directions.

So I don't see a point in wallowing in the worst case scenario going forward, even if I'm wrong.

There is literally zero fun in that, and that's what this is about to me.

When they win it's fun. But when they don't I don't rush to the site to regurgitate a sky is falling mantra. I let it go and watch Succession with my wife.

Personally I think you're confusing big picture with an almanac.

We have different definitions of winning. That seems to be the disconnect.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by btimbit

That was just Sutter flipping us all the bird on his way out, right? No way he actually thought that was the best SO option

Actually, I don't think it was directed at Tre, Edwards or us...I think it was directed at the TEAM.

If the stories of dissension in the ranks are to be believed, maybe that's why.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Then you would be an idiot to renew your season tickets. I mean you would have to pay me to attend a game watching this kind of hockey....

That I can understand. Sadly, I gave up my seasons some years back when I moved to BC...if I were still an STH, I'd quit this year (never to return, though....maybe. Tix were available in 2005-06 IIRC).

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Actually, I don't think it was directed at Tre, Edwards or us...I think it was directed at the TEAM.

If the stories of dissension in the ranks are to be believed, maybe that's why.

I think it could have been directed at Tre.

Huberdeau, Kadri, and Ritchie were the three forward additions this season.

Those are the three that shot.

[Toonage]

The scary/sad part may be that Sutter had this plan in his head if the game got to a shoot out. Ritchie was shooting no matter what (if needed)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think it could have been directed at Tre.

Huberdeau, Kadri, and Ritchie were the three forward additions this season.

Those are the three that shot.

Aside from Backlund, every forward is a Treliving addition though. And I guarantee Sutter was asked about all those additions anyway. Like he was against getting Kadri or Ritchie?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think it could have been directed at Tre.

Huberdeau, Kadri, and Ritchie were the three forward additions this season.

Those are the three that shot.

man is insane if he sacrificed the season (even if it was likely already lost) to send a message to the GM

[Paulie Walnuts]

He has been sending a message to someone all season not sure why it is would surprising he did it again last night.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jetfire

Toffoli, Sutter's own guy who's been a stud all season for us, game winners, OT winners, etc. and he picks Ritchie to shoot over him? What a slap in the face of Toffoli.

Definitely. But I don't think Sutter was directing it at him, I think it was directed at Treliving: the season is on the line, down to a shoot-out, and who does he send out? Huberdeau, Kadri and Ritchie - 3 guys that Treliving acquired this year.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

man is insane if he sacrificed the season (even if it was likely already lost) to send a message to the GM

I feel like he might have been sending messages to the GM and owner all season to be honest.

It's purely hypothetical but I honestly feel like Sutter has coaching trying to get Treliving fired all season.

[GioforPM]

Ritchie was the only real "off the board" pick though. Huberdeau's a no-brainer, Kadri is supposed to be this clutch scorer despite his season. The rest of the team is kind of just not fancy. I mean, Backlund was as good a choice as any IMO.

Ritchie - I think it was Sutter just going with his gut, which is a mistake.

[skcli]

The way they lost to the bottom feeders really showcase what this team is made of. You can blame Markstrom or Huberdoll or Lucic all you like but the reality is this is a bad team all and all. If not for Toffoli’s tremendous efforts we would be in a Bedard lottery pick. They beat some good teams occasionally (once in a full moon) but they are as bad as some of the bottom feeders if not worst. I think all the OT loser points masked the real issue with this team.

Let’s bring up the Wranglers next season!

[timun]

Originally Posted by zamler

We ended the season in the worst possible position.

The Calgary Flames Way™

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Ritchie was the only real "off the board" pick though. Huberdeau's a no-brainer, Kadri is supposed to be this clutch scorer despite his season. The rest of the team is kind of just not fancy. I mean, Backlund was as good a choice as any IMO.

Ritchie - I think it was Sutter just going with his gut, which is a mistake.

Kadri was 1/5 on the season and all but quit on the team down the stretch.
Backlund is a career 1/13 in the shootout. He's not, and never will be a good selection in such situations.
Ritchie has 6 career attempts and just two goals during his 9 year career for a reason.


Toffoli was 1/2 on the year and our most clutch player all season.
Rasmus was 2/4 on the year.
Lindholm didn't get a single opportunity in the shootout all year.

There really is no defending those choices, and Darryl's quote that those selections really had "no bearing" on the outcome says everything you need to know.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by skcli

The way they lost to the bottom feeders really showcase what this team is made of. You can blame Markstrom or Huberdoll or Lucic all you like but the reality is this is a bad team all and all. If not for Toffoli’s tremendous efforts we would be in a Bedard lottery pick. They beat some good teams occasionally (once in a full moon) but they are as bad as some of the bottom feeders if not worst. I think all the OT loser points masked the real issue with this team.

Let’s bring up the Wranglers next season!

Markstrom shoulders his share of the blame for all of the Chicago losses and one of the losses to the Habs and Ducks. And the one loss to AZ. Not the Columbus loss - he was .923, and not the loss in Montreal - he was .974. He was also good in all 3 losses to Nashville and beat Winnipeg 2 out of 3.

[bax]

Ritchie literally scored on Saros in a shootout earlier this season. I can live with that pick. It’s the Kadri and Backlund picks that I don’t like.

I don’t see what Kadri has done to deserve to be in that position and Backlund has never been good in the shootout.

Lindholm, Toffoli, and Mangiapane- our three best goal scorers don’t get a sniff.