[PGT] Flames lose 3-2, playoff hopes extinguished

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

How about this:

Huberdeau looks to have found his game. Markstrom is very capable of a rebound year - he’s done it before and tonight was a fine performance overall. And Wolf is in the wings. Lucic is likely done with a replacement to come from the farm (contracts almost demand this). Mangiapane is still young and can also rebound. Kids like Duehr and Pelletier look good. The D corps is very solid.

Just average goaltending over the year would have put Calgary in the POs. Hell, two or three games with a little more luck do it. So with actual good goaltending, Huberdeau improved, Mangiapane having a better year, Calgary is where the pundits predicted this year.

Huberdeau- yes
Mangi- maybe
Markstrom- hell no. He lost to bottom dwellers down the stretch. His rebound was a mirage.

[Jethro Choicebro]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Oh I have dibs on bringing up Bennett! He would have looked great missing in the shootout!

Janko had a pretty good game

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well the Flames were up 1-0... didn't cost them the season

Markstrom let the next 2 in and it wasn't exactly against household names either

I know you hate. Markstrom, but he made the first two saves and if either of Calgary’s second or 3rd shooters score, it’s game over. Instead, Saros had to make basic saves.

All of Nashville’s shooters made quality attempts IMO.

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by schteve_d

It seems to me that the only plausible explanation for what just happened is that Sutter wants out and wanted to make sure, with absolute certainty, that upper management and ownership would have no other choice than to fire him. Like, it's not a question, or an argument or a debate. There's no choice. It has to happen and Sutter has orchestrated it.

I think Sutter showed owners that Treliving's the newly brought players were how bad, who don't have a leadership to take the team next level.
Sutter wants GM is fired.
And also saves his face like "I trusted to the team's highest payed players, unfortunately they couldn't complete the task. What could I have done?"

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

How about this:

Huberdeau looks to have found his game. Markstrom is very capable of a rebound year - he’s done it before and tonight was a fine performance overall. And Wolf is in the wings. Lucic is likely done with a replacement to come from the farm (contracts almost demand this). Mangiapane is still young and can also rebound. Kids like Duehr and Pelletier look good. The D corps is very solid.

Just average goaltending over the year would have put Calgary in the POs. Hell, two or three games with a little more luck do it. So with actual good goaltending, Huberdeau improved, Mangiapane having a better year, Calgary is where the pundits predicted this year.

That sounds like a lot of things need to do a 180. Huby looked better, but he didn’t find his game at the rate we’re paying him to. I don’t think Markstrom is mentally strong enough to be elite through a whole season plus playoffs. I think we overpaid Mang.

I like some of those young guys for sure, but I don’t think any of them are game breakers. We need one. Our D corps is pretty good, but we still hemorrhage high danger chances, and have no one that can run the PP.

I expect us to be very average again next season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Huberdeau- yes
Mangi- maybe
Markstrom- hell no. He lost to bottom dwellers down the stretch. His rebound was a mirage.

Markstrom has looked fine in most of the games in the stretch, win or lose. Like tonight.

Go cheer for Edmonton now.

[soulchoice]

Derek Wills and his insight is nauseating to listen to.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Kasi

Probably wants a team to root for who has a legitimate chance of winning a cup I’d guess. Not this team we have.

Well I'm sure him posting on a fan message board is going to accomplish that task...

[CSharp]

That was a slow and hard death to end the season. And, where does that leave the Flames - dead smack right in the middle of the pack for draft picks again and on the outside looking in. Pretty much mediocre going forward!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

That sounds like a lot of things need to do a 180. Huby looked better, but he didn’t find his game at the rate we’re paying him to. I don’t think Markstrom is mentally strong enough to be elite through a whole season plus playoffs. I think we overpaid Mang.

I like some of those young guys for sure, but I don’t think any of them are game breakers. We need one. Our D corps is pretty good, but we still hemorrhage high danger chances, and have no one that can run the PP.

I expect us to be very average again next season.

You wanted to know how they could be a strong team, there it is. I’m sorry if you wanted a guarantee.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I know you hate. Markstrom, but he made the first two saves and if either of Calgary’s second or 3rd shooters score, it’s game over. Instead, Saros had to make basic saves.

All of Nashville’s shooters made quality attempts IMO.

Lol now I hate Markstrom

He allowed 2 goals on 4 shots...one hit the post

1 actual save. He got a lot of the 3rd shot

It's not all on Ritchie who made a decent attempt...at least as good as the other two misses

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Well I'm sure him posting on a fan message board is going to accomplish that task...

Same can be said for optimistic posters. Goes both ways.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I know you hate. Markstrom, but he made the first two saves and if either of Calgary’s second or 3rd shooters score, it’s game over. Instead, Saros had to make basic saves.

All of Nashville’s shooters made quality attempts IMO.

Just want to say that I truly appreciate dialogue looking at the saves goalies are actually called upon to make

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CSharp

That was a slow and hard death to end the season. And, where does that leave the Flames - dead smack right in the middle of the pack for draft picks again and on the outside looking in. Pretty much mediocre going forward!

Trade the pick then. 2023 1st & Kadri for a bucket of pucks, who says no?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

That sounds like a lot of things need to do a 180. Huby looked better, but he didn’t find his game at the rate we’re paying him to. I don’t think Markstrom is mentally strong enough to be elite through a whole season plus playoffs. I think we overpaid Mang.

I like some of those young guys for sure, but I don’t think any of them are game breakers. We need one. Our D corps is pretty good, but we still hemorrhage high danger chances, and have no one that can run the PP.

I expect us to be very average again next season.

I think Sutter played Marky too much and it showed. He'd be great for a number games and then have a few bad one. It could be that Sutter lost faith in Vladar.

[GullFoss]

This season is disappointing because it was a well constructed team that had a lot of top players underperform for large stretches and had a lot of bad puck luck.

I think when the dust settles this team will look quite similar to how it looks now. A few spots taken by Coronato and Pelletier and Wolf. A few UFAs not coming back. Vladar traded. Same coach. Same GM.

[johnnyhockey13]

Going out in typical flames fashion this year 😟

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You wanted to know how they could be a strong team, there it is. I’m sorry if you wanted a guarantee.

I appreciated your post. I’m just having a conversation and happen to disagree, that’s all.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I think Sutter showed owners that Treliving's the newly brought players were how bad, who don't have a leadership to take the team next level.
Sutter wants GM is fired.
And also saves his face like "I trusted to the team's highest payed players, unfortunately they couldn't complete the task. What could I have done?"

Username checks out

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I think Sutter showed owners that Treliving's the newly brought players were how bad, who don't have a leadership to take the team next level.
Sutter wants GM is fired.
And also saves his face like "I trusted to the team's highest payed players, unfortunately they couldn't complete the task. What could I have done?"

A. Treliving’s contract is up and he probably will get better offers elsewhere. So the theory makes no sense.

B. Sutter’s “plan” backfired if he thought Huberdeau wouldn’t score. And any coach would have had Huberdeau in the first three shooters anyway. So the theory makes no sense.

C. Ritchie may be newly acquired but he isn’t a top paid guy. On your theory Weegar should have shot.