[PGT] Flames 1 - Blue Jackets 3

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Game thoughts:

Markstrom was pretty good. Not amazing, but made some big saves to keep his team in it. 2 breakaway goals isn't anything to be ashamed of.

Horrible game from the Flames almost all night. They had a good first, but then lost the plot completely, but there was a reason for that which is my next point.

Holy ####, referees, calm down. You don't need to call everything you suspect might be worthy of a penalty. The 1st was fine, but from the 2nd on almost any contact that limited a player's progress was a call, whether it was truly a penalty or not. ####ing referee show tonight.

Hanifin had a ####ing horrible night

Rasmus Andersson is a legit #1 d-man in the league.

Zohorna looked really good in his limited time. I think Darryl needs to give the kid a bit more ice time going forward.

Put Phillips in the ####ing lineup dude. Your size bias is stupid. The team needed his creativity tonight.

Goal #1 was completely Rasmus' fault. He left Laine wide open and didn't even try the intercept the pass. Laine was skating backwards, peeked over his shoulder, and was shocked to see completely open ice between him and Markstrom.

Goal #2 was obviously Weegar's fault.

There would have been goals 3-6 if Markstrom didn't bail the team out on other odd man rushes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Sorry, don't agree. He makes some of the dumbest passes.

Weegar/Zadorov
Weegar/Tanev

Have great metrics

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Context maybe...I was being called out for my strength of schedule take so posted the record since said take. It's going how I thought it would so far.

Nope it's been your take all season not just now. Own up to it. The take was always dumb and it's proving it's point now since you need to keep moving the goal posts.

It's going how I thought it would lmao okay calm down.

[Samonadreau]

Between tonight and the yotes game earlier this week, it's been some boring, listless hockey this team is playing.

They need some energy or youth or a superstar or something.

[Naitix]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Sorry, don't agree. He makes some of the dumbest passes.

He also makes some of the best passes, he had a bad game whatever

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Johnny feeling better about his choice to nest in columbus after that one



great job boys..

Wasn't like he did much in the game

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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

They need a night out in Montreal?

couldn't hurt at this point

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Nope it's been your take all season not just now. Own up to it. The take was always dumb and it's proving it's point now since you need to keep moving the goal posts.

It's going how I thought it would lmao okay calm down.

God you a such a loser...own up to my take that has been correct so far?

Did you miss the 4-1 homestand? No goalposts are moved the Flames started winning more frequently when I said they would. I never said they would win every game against bad team because nobody does.

Columbus beat the Jets 4-1 last week

[SaskyFlamesFan]

This team feels like the Covid season when everyone was saying wait until they play Ottawa. Then before they played Ottawa everyone was saying oh no Ottawa is playing better. Turned out it didn’t matter as they were mediocre that year until it didn’t matter then they were garbage.

This feels exactly the same. Sure strength of schedule matters, but if you want to be a contender it shouldn’t matter that much. If you want to be one of the best you should be able to beat the majority of the teams. If you have to wait to inprove your record by playing bottom of the league, then you are mediocre.

Something is missing with this team, not sure what but something is. They don’t have anyone to take over a game but you can’t just go out and get those guys. This team plays slow and disorganized. They very rarely have a nice rush up ice that results in sustained pressure. Something is off but they should be better, much like the Covid year.

If they make the playoffs it will be barely and they don’t seem like they will have much of a fight in it. Just feels like if they make it, will be another 5-6 game 1st round loss. Not much faith in this group right now. Hope they pull out of it but doubt a Phillips or anyone in their system will move the needle enough, they just don’t seem to have “it”.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Goal #1 was completely Rasmus' fault. He left Laine wide open and didn't even try the intercept the pass. Laine was skating backwards, peeked over his shoulder, and was shocked to see completely open ice between him and Markstrom.

Goal #2 was obviously Weegar's fault.

There would have been goals 3-6 if Markstrom didn't bail the team out on other odd man rushes.

I remember Hanifin as being the culprit on goal 1, but I am now drunk and have probably forgotten the reality.

All I know is that Andersson made key play after key play to try and keep his team in this one. It didn't pan out, but the dude was really good overall.


It's such a frustrating team to watch because we all know they have pretty good talent on paper.

I really think Sutter has lost the room. We all know he has a limited shelf life, and 3 years is pretty much the limit on good returns for his coaching. We're about at that point.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's the reality. The team doesn't seem to respond to what he expects them to do. Something is off.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I remember Hanifin as being the culprit on goal 1, but I am now drunk and have probably forgotten the reality.

All I know is that Andersson made key play after key play to try and keep his team in this one. It didn't pan out, but the dude was really good overall.


It's such a frustrating team to watch because we all know they have pretty good talent on paper.

I really think Sutter has lost the room. We all know he has a limited shelf life, and 3 years is pretty much the limit on good returns for his coaching. We're about at that point.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's the reality. The team doesn't seem to respond to what he expects them to do. Something is off.

we're at like 1.75 seasons of total Sutter coaching

came in the back half of 2021, one full season, and another 25 games

would have to be a really short shelf life, and many of these players have only had him for a few months

[SaskyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

we're at like 1.75 seasons of total Sutter coaching

came in the back half of 2021, one full season, and another 25 games

would have to be a really short shelf life, and many of these players have only had him for a few months

And they just extended him for 3 years. He isn’t leaving and it doesn’t seem like him and Treliving are on the same page. Treliving had no contract after this year. Did ownership demand the extension for Sutter? He has Edwards ear for sure. Would Sutter become GM again? That would be disastrous. This team is in a slow spiral right now and not sure what the solution is.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

we're at like 1.75 seasons of total Sutter coaching

came in the back half of 2021, one full season, and another 25 games

would have to be a really short shelf life, and many of these players have only had him for a few months

Mhhmmm, not really. It's at least 2 years plus this season. While I'm hopeful, I just see a team that is not interested in his style of game. They seem to break ranks easily, and that means he doesn't really have complete buy-in.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just see what i see and report.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I remember Hanifin as being the culprit on goal 1, but I am now drunk and have probably forgotten the reality.

All I know is that Andersson made key play after key play to try and keep his team in this one. It didn't pan out, but the dude was really good overall.

I went back to the Columbus broadcast which had the best overhead analysis and you might be right.

I think I remembered Andersson being really passive even though he was skating in the right direction so I thought he could have made an effort to intercept the pass or sped up to skate forward at full blast to out-race the backwards facing Laine if he had tried.

Hanifin was right beside Laine but his momentum skating backwards was carrying him away from the play.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I remember Hanifin as being the culprit on goal 1, but I am now drunk and have probably forgotten the reality.

All I know is that Andersson made key play after key play to try and keep his team in this one. It didn't pan out, but the dude was really good overall.


It's such a frustrating team to watch because we all know they have pretty good talent on paper.

I really think Sutter has lost the room. We all know he has a limited shelf life, and 3 years is pretty much the limit on good returns for his coaching. We're about at that point.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's the reality. The team doesn't seem to respond to what he expects them to do. Something is off.

We don't all know this. I see no reason to focus on the coach when the actual players on the team have accomplished so little under so many different coaches.

If the "room" no longer listens to him then I am convinced the room is not capable of any kind of sustained success or overcoming adversity.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

if Sutter also gets gm dibs from ownership I would resign my fandom for a bit

but I think Sutter would refuse it at this stage in his career and with his history at the position

Sutter is a great player motivator and teacher but his grasp on what makes a successful present day nhl roster is really not great .. he is behind on that front, no matter how much he claims to be a student of the new game and analytics

size and toughness are not the factors they once were

tough guys get sent to the bin for clean hits on nhl stars .. its sad, but it's the reality we're in now

he's right on all his criticisms of the officiating according to the old ways when tough sobs ruled the game but this is the new normal

[JohnnyB]

The Flames are just kind of boring this year. Whatever's going on with their chemistry, they're not much fun.

[Buff]

When can we start complaining about Huberdeau? He's invisible. He signed a contract that indicates he is the best player on the team but has been anything but that.

Give him time because he needs to adjust? How much time does a so called best player need? He has been terrible and it is not acceptable any more. It's been 24 games and he should have been at the top of his game about a dozen games ago. Sure he has 7 points in his last 7 games but hasn't exactly been the Flames top player doing that.

After getting 115 points last year he deserves a lot of criticism for his play this year. He's well bellow a PPG right now and I'd be very surprised if he reaches 75 points.

Is he waiting for his next contract to kick in before he actually tries to be the best player? The Flames would be in a better position if their supposed best player showed up.

I've lost my patience with him. Maybe you can tell.

[Monahammer]

For ####s sake the obvious shot is staring us in the eye. The top scoring forward in the second best league in the world can be added to our roster and our top 6 could use a shakeup. What do we have to lose?

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

ruzicka-zohorna-phillips

Line #1. 21 minutes in the biggest show. 5 pm slot on hockey night in Canada. There are 2 ways this goes. Sutter looks like a goddamn genius or he says see, I told you so. I would do it.