[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The problem with the trade is it is a win now move. If we landed Huberdeau with a stacked roster I'd be really pumped we were going for it, even if it was for only one year. If Huberdeau signs a deal though that gives the team a few years to try and build around him which should hopefully be exciting as well. But if he doesn't sign this all could turn into a major disaster where we lose Gaudreau and Tkachuk for peanuts and all our trade pieces have less value. In that scenario yikes.

Ya the only issue I have with the trade, I will add that I do like the return, and think that Huberdeau is a great player, is simply the age of the players coming back, which goes to the whole "Win Now" texture of the deal. Which works within Treliving's mission. I still would love to see a bit of succession planning within the roster.

[Gaudfather]

The Panthers and Flames Just Redefined the "Hockey Trade"

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl...f9958a6bafe50f

The Florida Panthers and Calgary Flames pulled off the biggest deal of the salary cap era, and re-defined what a "hockey trade" is in the process.

With his back against the wall and his organization in disarray, Flames GM Brad Treliving somehow managed to pull off a miracle as the clock ticked closer to midnight, turning an MVP candidate that had publicly stated his desire to leave Calgary as soon as humanly possible into another MVP candidate, a legitimate top-pair defender, a decent prospect, and a first-round pick.

Pour one out for Leverage, folks. It will be missed.

It's not hyperbole to label the trade that sent Matthew Tkachuk to the Florida Panthers in exchange for Jonathan Huberdeau, Mackenzie Weegar, Cole Schwindt, and a 2025 first as the biggest deal of the salary cap era.

These trades simply don't happen in the all-too-conservative NHL. Not in a flat-cap era, at least. It was barely 24 hours ago, in fact, that Bally Sports' Andy Strickland mused on Twitter about how an NHL GM relayed to him just how impossible it was to move salary at this point in the offseason.

And then: BAM!

A blockbuster for the ages.

[Igottago]

I think there's a possibility that playing in a Canadian hockey market may appeal to Huberdeau and Weegar. Its very different from where they played previously, maybe they'll find it exciting to have the attention and hype of a Canadian team.

[Cappy]

Have to hand it to treliving. He turned lemon into lemonade. Very bad position to be in with Tkachuk and was able to flip him for a good return.

As mentioned. Tkachuk is a phenomenal all around player - he’s better than huberdeau, he’s better than Weeger. But to get both and a 1st? Smart play

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I never said the majority doesn’t have critical thinking or are lemmings. You’re painting.

You know who I was responding to then right?

I guess volume of posts [aka post per page in this thread] equals critical thought.

Flames took the best offer available for a player they had to trade...critical thinking says they made the correct decision.

Even if you are "team rebuild" they have more to trade today than yesterday. There is a reason most people agree.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'm glad the Flames view Weegar as a top-pair guy. 100% correct.

Are you his cousin? you are definitely putting all your eggs into this basket! lol

I hope you are more correct about Weegar than you were with Zadarov.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Have to hand it to treliving. He turned lemon into lemonade. Very bad position to be in with Tkachuk and was able to flip him for a good return.

As mentioned. Tkachuk is a phenomenal all around player - he’s better than huberdeau, he’s better than Weeger. But to get both and a 1st? Smart play

Since when? I mean this would be a pretty hot debate
Huberdeau was penciled into the top line of team Canada for the world cup

age is really the only argument...Huberdeau has better numbers and has been over 80 points multiple times

[Bonded]

Hopefully everyone is right about Weegar. Tre sure thinks he is a #1D

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Since when? I mean this would be a pretty hot debate

Huberdeau was penciled into the top line of team Canada for the world cup

I'd still gamble on Tkachuk long term but great trade still

[FlameyMcFlameFace]

Anyone know if I can watch/listen to this interview anywhere?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The problem with the trade is it is a win now move. If we landed Huberdeau with a stacked roster I'd be really pumped we were going for it, even if it was for only one year. If Huberdeau signs a deal though that gives the team a few years to try and build around him which should hopefully be exciting as well. But if he doesn't sign this all could turn into a major disaster where we lose Gaudreau and Tkachuk for peanuts and all our trade pieces have less value. In that scenario yikes.

Yep, still a lot to sort out. If Huberdeau signs an extension, then great. If not, this trade may end up being terrible.

Scenario 1: Huberdeau extends and the Flames have a star to build around. That would be wonderful.

Scenario 2: Huberdeau doesn’t want to extend and gets flipped quickly. The results could end up being great. No one knows.

Scenario 3: Flames flop and flip Huberdeau at the deadline. Again, a lot of uncertainty how that turns out. We are likely getting back a couple of late 1sts in the case.

Scenario 4: Flames win the Cup and Huberdeau leaves. It would be worth it.

Scenario 5: Flames are in a playoff position with Huberdeau unsigned and flop out in the pkayoffs, then lose him for nothing.

Just so much uncertainty with this and given recent history, it is hard to avoid thinking it won’t be scenario 5.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Hopefully everyone is right about Weegar. Tre sure thinks he is a #1D

He strikes me a little like TJ Brodie…in that he is an excellent player, but makes a few memorable gaffes. Of course there are differences. But upgrading our D is a huge boon to this team, especially after the 2nd round last year. I’ve got to imagine this trade makes Sutter happy

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FlameyMcFlameFace

Anyone know if I can watch/listen to this interview anywhere?

https://player.sportsnet960.ca/

[flames_fan_down_under]

Ya I wonder if Tkachuk puts up another 100 point season again. He had never even flirted with numbers like that prior to last season. Could shine on a Florida team that scored a lot of goals. It will be interesting to follow his story there.

[cral12]

this probably a Fata but icymi - wow...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550894950572851203

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd still gamble on Tkachuk long term but great trade still

Tkachuk will never get 115 points IMO

age I will give you but with his skating...Huberdeau skates better than him now despite the age difference

[Captain Otto]

Any guesses what our first PP unit looks like?

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[CFO]

Worst case is flames deal both guys at deadline who will fetch each a 1st and a prospect.

Now flames have ability to get 3 1st rounds all in same draft (one being their own) plus a ton of cap space for following year plus.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Ya I wonder if Tkachuk puts up another 100 point season again. He had never even flirted with numbers like that prior to last season. Could shine on a Florida team that scored a lot of goals. It will be interesting to follow his story there.

I think he will do better in Florida than the other rumored teams but 100 points seems unlikely...to me anyway

[cral12]

Originally Posted by cral12

this probably a Fata but icymi - wow...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550894950572851203

(oh, dang, apparently this is the dude who tried to insinuate Jimmy Hayes death was due to the vaccine the day he died to get views...hmmm