[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550914171532763136

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by Sheva #7

i found it interesting how Brad mentioned thaat they talked to Gaudreau last year and he was under impression that they were interested in being here....Gaudreau's camp definitely fooled him and i'm sure he's still pissed at that

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....we won't get fooled again!

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Sorry, but I hate the idea that just because the organization/owner or whoever wants it this way, then we as fans should all just conform and accept things the way they are.



I don’t really care if I come off as black sheep here, it wouldn’t be the first time. I’m still going to put my opinion out there just like everyone else, even if it is unpopular.

Your opinion is fair. My opinion of make the most of opportunities you have when you can is because of the uncertainty of success around a rebuild.

If you knew it was going to be like the leafs with 3 years of top 10 picks and then a contender within a few years.. sure. But being a Buffalo or an Edmonton and spending a decade as a terrible is not appealing.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

It's easy to look back at that game against Toronto with the Muzzin puck flip at the end of the game. Ever since then, he seemed to have lost some interest. Granted he had success with Sutter for this season, but that does seem like some sort of turning point.

Did the entire team piss him off though? There’s been so much turnover and change that occurred since 2021. He scored 40+ goals, 100 + points and he won a round for the first time in his career. If all of that didn’t change his mind, then something really bad must have went down.

[Northendzone]

Given the circumstances this seems like about the best outcome we could expect - although it would have been nice if Hubs had at least one more year on his deal.

It would have been interesting to see what other deals brad was being offered.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Did the entire team piss him off though? There’s been so much turnover and change that occurred since 2021. He scored 40+ goals, 100 + points and he won a round for the first time in his career. If all of that didn’t change his mind, then something really bad must have went down.

Or he just wanted to be somewhere warm or close to home?

[squirtle]

Brad is on the fan with Steinberg now

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....we won't get fooled again!

Hmm...great song title!

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I really hope they can sign both Huberdeau and Weegar to extensions. If Huberdeau won’t sign, he’s probably more valuable right now to most teams then Tkachuk. Teams would like that they would get Huberdeau for that one year at 5.9. Allows them to fit him in easier right now, because most teams have already structured their respective teams cap for the year.

Not a chance Huberdeau nets the Flames more than Tkachuk did. Even though Huberdeau is likely the superior player, Matthew was an RFA ready to sign an 8 year deal whereas Huberdeau to another team looks mode like a 1 year rental. Team control is everything to a GM.

[Hackey]

The problem with the trade is it is a win now move. If we landed Huberdeau with a stacked roster I'd be really pumped we were going for it, even if it was for only one year. If Huberdeau signs a deal though that gives the team a few years to try and build around him which should hopefully be exciting as well. But if he doesn't sign this all could turn into a major disaster where we lose Gaudreau and Tkachuk for peanuts and all our trade pieces have less value. In that scenario yikes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Or he just wanted to be somewhere warm or close to home?

Seems like he didn't want to pay tax either

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Or he just wanted to be somewhere warm or close to home?

Yeah, Tkachuk strikes me as the kind of guy that will get lost at a lot of beach parties.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The problem with the trade is it is a win now move. If we landed Huberdeau with a stacked roster I'd be really pumped we were going for it, even if it was for only one year. If Huberdeau signs a deal though that gives the team a few years to try and build around him which should hopefully be exciting as well. But if he doesn't sign this all could turn into a major disaster where we lose Gaudreau and Tkachuk for peanuts and all our trade pieces have less value. In that scenario yikes.

You guys always assume the worst case scenario "going for it" and the best case scenario in rebuilding

Far more rebuilds fail than turn into anything great

The Flames won't lose the two main cogs in this trade for nothing, its not happening

also the Flames roster is too good and the division is too bad to rebuild now anyway...its as easy a pass to round three as ever.

Oilers? pfft...I will take them over any other top 2 divisional team thanks

[flames_fan_down_under]

At the very least can the collective hockey media complex stop referring to Tkachuk as a 'Unicorn". It's gotten tiring.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Not a chance Huberdeau nets the Flames more than Tkachuk did. Even though Huberdeau is likely the superior player, Matthew was an RFA ready to sign an 8 year deal whereas Huberdeau to another team looks mode like a 1 year rental. Team control is everything to a GM.

Or Huberdeau and Weegar are open to the same type of process. Tkachuk could have said St Louis or bust.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Is the press conference up? I missed it

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Or he just wanted to be somewhere warm or close to home?

But not too close

[Mathgod]

First sign & trade in league history? Wow!

[sureLoss]

Treliving says the league office told him this is the first sign and trade in NHL history.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

First sign & trade in league history? Wow!

Tkachuk was too smart to not cash in on 104 points...he knows