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Old 07-22-2022, 10:28 PM   #561
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I still can't believe some posters are seeing this in a negative light. If you don't see this deal as a win nothing this team will ever accomplish will make you happy. Unless this team failing is what makes you happy in which case I truly don't understand.
As I’ve said, this is an excellent win now move. If this is a team on the cusp this trade is legendary.

But I get why there’s negativity. Sure, if it falls apart you can spin Huberdeau at the deadline. Weegar too. Those become futures. But the futures of all futures are at the top end of the upcoming draft and that’s no longer an option. So why punt the window down another year when you have a generational draft upcoming?

So, some sourness that we are laying the tracks in front of a moving train isn’t unreasonable. Without another move this trade is…perplexing. The group as it stands isn’t good enough, we need to add more.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:28 PM   #562
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This is an exciting trade. Yes, there is risk with the contracts, but I did not think anything resembling a Huberdeau level player, plus everything else was coming back. It has the potential to be an absolute home run of a trade, and even the UFA risks come to fruition, they can move the players by the deadline for more return. I don't believe any other trade would have had this level of upside.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:29 PM   #563
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I'll get slammed for saying it but.....F it....

If #23 can come back and play 82 games I'd love to see him resurrect himself with a decent year. He deserves it as he's busted his busted ass his whole time here.....and it would be a great feelgood story.
Unless they plan to go out and get Kadri, I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t want him back. Monny’s money comes off the books anyways and it will probably cost us draft capital to move him. Maybe he has a great year and you can get some value at the deadline.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:29 PM   #564
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Unbelievable trade! I’m stunned. I’ve always liked Weegar when I’ve watched the Panthers- I found him to be noticeable in a good way. It’s been an insane couple of weeks for this team. Way to go, BT! Bring on next season!
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:29 PM   #565
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Did I hear correctly Huberdeau waived an NTC to allow this to happen? If so it helps with the reduce the collective angst around here from the last two weeks.
He had an 8-team no-trade list, so he either waived it or Calgary wasn't on it.
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Florida's official release just says the 1st is lottery protected.
Florida has no 1st round picks now until 2026. Their ability to meaningfully improve the roster for the next few years is quite limited - there’s every chance that this will be a much higher pick than 18-30 that I otherwise expected we’d get.

Good work, Bradagast.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:29 PM   #567
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I really hope the other offers come out
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:29 PM   #568
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Florida's official release just says the 1st is lottery protected.
What does mean, it defers to the following year's draft, at which there is no protection?
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Have the conditions on the pick been confirmed?
I haven’t seen anything other than lottery protected - which to means so long as it isn’t #1 or #2 overall, we get the 2025 pick as #1 and #2 are the only two lottery spots.
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This is such a lopsided win and the entire hockey world knows it

anyone complaining has me seriously doubting their affiliation to the Flames
I think, at least for me, the concern is if they aren’t re-signed before the TDL and if we are in a playoff spot we will likely decide to keep them and seemingly go through the same uncertainty this upcoming offseason.

If the Flames have learned from the JG debacle then I will be happy, I’m just currently unsure if they have or not and worry I might not know until the TDL.
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What does mean, it defers to the following year's draft, at which there is no protection?
Yes
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Practice up your Hube dubeee dooos flames fans!
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Wow. I like this. Huberdeau and Weegar are tops.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:32 PM   #574
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I mean, I guess we’ll FINALLY find out what Sam Bennett really is when he isn’t being propped up by Huberdeau…

We’ll finally get closure on the Sam Bennett story. I’m excited!
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So is everyone feeling better about not trading Tkachuk at the draft for 2OA?
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If I posted this in rumors yesterday I would have been laughed off the site

there is no argument this is a bad deal for the Flames, ZERO

They were forced to trade Tkachuk and this is what they do. You could tank for 10 years and not get a 115 point player
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I haven’t seen anything other than lottery protected - which to means so long as it isn’t #1 or #2 overall, we get the 2025 pick as #1 and #2 are the only two lottery spots.
Isn't it top 10 protected?
I thought I just read that somewhere.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:33 PM   #578
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I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't like this. The Panthers outscored their opponents by a greater margin than when Huberdeau was on the ice. He is a good player but doesn't drive play.

If he's supposed to be our best player, we won't be doing much.
You always want 10th rounded from the WHL, not surprising.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they also announce extensions tomorrow before introductions.
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Going to be a lot of pressure on Tkachuk initially to perform above what he probably can down there after this exchange.

Luckily for Tkachuk, hockey is probably a bit down the list for Floridians and they'll get over it.
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