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Old 07-13-2022, 12:06 AM   #1121
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Makes it look like there was some family sway in the matter that caused this decision to happen the way it did.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:09 AM   #1122
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Not hard for him.
That is why he has done it one time in his career
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:09 AM   #1123
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Treliving has let Brodie, Gio and now Gaudreau walk out the door for nothing.
What would you have done to keep Giordano? Whom would you have lost in the expansion draft instead, and how much would you have paid the Kraken to make it happen? Please be specific.

Because the Flames did not lose Giordano for nothing. The assets they would have lost instead are what they have to show for letting him go. Every team lost a player.

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There is every indication he’ll make the same mistake with Tkachuk, and zero reason to allow him the opportunity to try.
Explain to me what indication you are talking about.

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It is quite possible he could lose every one of Gio, Brodie, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm and Hanifin to leave as UFAs for not a single asset.
Don't forget Hamilton, Ferland, and Fox. It was incredibly stupid of him to let them all leave as UFAs instead of trading them for something useful.

I mean, we all know Treliving always lets his assets go for nothing, so who are you going to believe, the narrative or your lying eyes?
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:10 AM   #1124
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For me, yes.

Lindholm
Hanifin
Tanev
Tkachuk
Toffoli
Backlund
Markstrom

All of those guys could feasibly fetch 1st round picks ++ in trades, which would be monumental for a rebuild.
Lots of teams rebuild without their young stars retiring in season 9 of a 5 year plan.Hanifin / Tkachuk could certainly be a part of a new team window.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:11 AM   #1125
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That is why he has done it one time in his career
Yeah 99 is closer to 80 than 100. Playing with a half broken Monahan that he got him to 80 points.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:12 AM   #1126
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It really does seem like it went down to the wire. Sucks it didn’t end how we wanted it to
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:12 AM   #1127
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Don't forget Hamilton, Ferland, and Fox. It was incredibly stupid of him to let them all leave as UFAs instead of trading them for something useful.

I mean, we all know Treliving always lets his assets go for nothing, so who are you going to believe, the narrative or your lying eyes?
Hamilton and Ferland didn't leave as UFA's they were traded for Hanifin and Lindholm ... he fleeced the Hurricanes on that trade IMO.
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Yeah 99 is closer to 80 than 100. Playing with a half broken Monahan that he got him to 80 points.
I mean ... 64,78,61,84 are not very close to 100
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hamilton and ferland didn't leave as ufa's they were traded for hanifin and lindholm ... He fleeced the hurricanes on that trade imo.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:15 AM   #1130
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Is there still a possibility he could sign back with the Flames, if he doesn't like the offers and/or he changes his mind? If so, there is a sliver of hope?
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:16 AM   #1131
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Yeah 99 is closer to 80 than 100. Playing with a half broken Monahan that he got him to 80 points.
Because that is what I said

Gaudreau won't have 700 points in the next 7 years, it's not "easy" to get 100 as you seem to think

He might do it once or twice more, maybe not. He will be paid like a 100 point scorer though
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:16 AM   #1132
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I mean ... 64,78,61,84 are not very close to 100
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:18 AM   #1133
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It's not like the Pacific is any good...100 points is hard. Basically have to stay consistent and no injuries.
Its a different brand of hockey in my opinion, the met is less physical IMO.

Injuries of course matter but if healthy I think he gets it done if he has the mindset after getting paid.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:23 AM   #1134
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Is there still a possibility he could sign back with the Flames, if he doesn't like the offers and/or he changes his mind? If so, there is a sliver of hope?
I didn't watch the press conference but people who did said that Treliving said he doubts it.

I guess you can never say never until he signs with someone else but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:27 AM   #1135
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I didn't watch the press conference but people who did said that Treliving said he doubts it.

I guess you can never say never until he signs with someone else but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Tre's exact words were "I don't anticipate it"
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:28 AM   #1136
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Whoever gets him needs a Goon. Tom Wilson is out of control.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:32 AM   #1137
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Yeah 99 is closer to 80 than 100. Playing with a half broken Monahan that he got him to 80 points.
If it's so easy for Gaudreau to get to 100, why did he stop at 99? And what about all those other years when he wasn't even close? Was he just slacking on purpose, since he didn't do something so easy?

I mean, all it takes is for Gaudreau to score 100 points is to have the best linemates he's ever had, on the best team he's ever played on, under the best coach he's ever played for, in a year where scoring goes up sharply all over the league. Easy peasy, amirite?
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:34 AM   #1138
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8 players scored 100 points this year and goals were way up...being top 8 in scoring is far from easy.

I'm not even hating on Gaudreau at all...I will take the under all 7 years and come out ahead 100%
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:35 AM   #1139
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I have every reason to believe he wanted to stay here. Then his family and parents entered the equation and clouded up his line of thinking. Should I stay or should I go now will haunt him for awhile as he moves on to his new team.
Yeah this is how I think it went down as well. Johnny seemed ready to sign on the dotted line last year.

That’s why I think it was vital to sign Johnny before the end of the season. This wasn’t a battle against Johnny’s clock, this was always a battle against the wife’s clock.

Johnny seems like the persuadable type by nature, give him a couple of months with the pregnant wife/family back home and they probably got comfortable with the idea of staying. Wife needs help with the baby, family nearby to help, it’s the perfect situation.

Management didn’t know who they were up against. They needed to make Johnny and his wife an offer they couldn’t refuse a long time ago.
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I didn't watch the press conference but people who did said that Treliving said he doubts it.

I guess you can never say never until he signs with someone else but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
If you want to watch it.


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