The world has gone to crap and there's little we can do to fix it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

And I, for one, think the Optimists are annoying.

Really. More annoying than the hordes of complainers that blame others for all their life's problems on loop like broken records while doing nothing about it?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

And I, for one, think the Optimists are annoying.

They're like Vegans at dinner.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Is it? I read sometimes the reports based on the models and I’m not sure it’s quite the way people describe it. People in coastal areas? Yes. People in Calgary? I dunno, kinda, there’ll be an impact, but I don’t think it will be quite the “catastrophe” people make it out to be. I mean don’t get me wrong it’ll change things significantly to the downside. Less food available, more flooding / droughts etc. but it is not end of humanity stuff. People say it is but I wonder if they’ve read the reports and even that is all assuming all the “models” are 100% correct, which lets be honest they won’t be.

So it’ll be bad, people will die, but it won’t be the end of humans and society will figure out a way to move on with climate change is my prediction. And that doesn’t mean we don’t try to be more sustainable, it isn’t a political statement or meant to be, and it is a real large problem for sure. But, mainly when it comes to “end of civilization” and other alluding to doomsday “this is the worst thing ever” type rhetoric, I wonder how much people have critically thought about this.

Look at the immigration crises of the past couple of decades, leading to a surge of Trump-style authoritarian movements around the world. When the number of refugees grows from millions to hundreds of millions in the coming decades, expect to see many more and far worse versions of the Trump/Bolsonaro/Putin style governments that we've seen to this point.

My worry is that the effects of climate change will likely cause the world to plummet into an extreme right-wing fascist #### hole, from which it may never return...

[Dion]

Pessimism has mostly degenerated into a way for people to just complain about things rather than actually address the problems. There are probably better ways to spend your time whining – hard work might not guarantee you success but it is always better than doing nothing and possibly getting fired for complaining around. Plus it discourages people to stay away from you because nobody likes a complainer.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Dion

Pessimism has mostly degenerated into a way for people to just complain about things rather than actually address the problems. There are probably better ways to spend your time whining – hard work might not guarantee you success but it is always better than doing nothing and possibly getting fired for complaining around. Plus it discourages people to stay away from you because nobody likes a complainer.

If you mean 'encourages' Then thats probably the best part.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Really. More annoying than the hordes of complainers that blame others for all their life's problems on loop like broken records while doing nothing about it?

Originally Posted by Dion

Pessimism has mostly degenerated into a way for people to just complain about things rather than actually address the problems. There are probably better ways to spend your time whining – hard work might not guarantee you success but it is always better than doing nothing and possibly getting fired for complaining around. Plus it discourages people to stay away from you because nobody likes a complainer.

^ yeah, ok...

One thing I've always noticed about the "complainers about the complainers"... they seldom if ever actually address the things that the complainers are actually complaining about. Like, do they maybe actually have a point? Did you ever stop and think about that? Or do you just dismiss them offhand every time just because it's the convenient thing to do?

Hmm... seems like if someone did something to inhibit, threaten, or endanger something that was important to you, in a way that you had no means to put a stop to, chances are you WOULD be complaining...

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

^ yeah, ok...

One thing I've always noticed about the "complainers about the complainers"... they seldom if ever actually address the things that the complainers are actually complaining about. Like, do they maybe actually have a point? Did you ever stop and think about that? Or do you just dismiss them offhand every time just because it's the convenient thing to do?

Hmm... seems like if someone did something to inhibit, threaten, or endanger something that was important to you, in a way that you had no means to put a stop to, chances are you WOULD be complaining...

And those situations garner support, and lots of it, very quickly.

Most complaints are just people whining because whining has become a way of life for many. Social media is basically everyone sitting around, complaining about things that almost always have no impact on them whatsoever.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

^ yeah, ok...

One thing I've always noticed about the "complainers about the complainers"... they seldom if ever actually address the things that the complainers are actually complaining about. Like, do they maybe actually have a point? Did you ever stop and think about that? Or do you just dismiss them offhand every time just because it's the convenient thing to do?

Hmm... seems like if someone did something to inhibit, threaten, or endanger something that was important to you, in a way that you had no means to put a stop to, chances are you WOULD be complaining...

Pessimists create their own problems and should take responsibiliy for it. They act as if the world revolves around them and feel that the rest of the world should just drop everything they are doing to help them. Screw that!

You want help? Take my advice and seek out some professional help. Someone who is trained to deal with and tolerate your constant negitivity. It's not our fault that you live in a world of perpetual gloom and doom.

Pessimists are apathetic and dismissive. Instead of looking at the glass as being half full or half empty. To them the glass is completely empty.

In the mean time, #### off and tell your pessimisim to someone who cares!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Dion

Pessimists create their own problems and should take responsibiliy for it. They act as if the world revolves around them and feel that the rest of the world should just drop everything they are doing to help them. Screw that!

You want help? Take my advice and seek out some professional help. Someone who is trained to deal with and tolerate your constant negitivity. It's not our fault that you live in a world of perpetual gloom and doom.

Pessimists are apathetic and dismissive. Instead of looking at the glass as being half ful lor half empty. To them the glass is completely empty.

Pft...crazy entitled rich people....always assuming there was ever even a glass to begin with.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Locke

They're like Vegans at dinner.

You can have your steak and eat it too if you just focus on what’s in your control, or perhaps read a book and talk about it with a mental health professional. Let them guide you.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You can have your steak and eat it too if you just focus on what’s in your control, or perhaps read a book and talk about it with a mental health professional. Let them guide you.

I have an appointment with a therapist to have a steak dinner and we're gonna hammer out the World's Problems.

I got this. No worries.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Well, everyone on the planet is affected by climate change and it is, without question, the biggest threat to us all.

But that’s all irrelevant anyways, since my point stands regardless. Telling a person that someone else has it worse so they shouldn’t feel bad has and always will be a stupid move. I guess none of us should ever feel bad about anything ever because people are worse off.

The OP doesn’t say ‘I feel bad.’ It says ‘the world has gone to crap.’ You’re correct that the first is subjective. But the second isn’t.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The OP doesn’t say ‘I feel bad.’ It says ‘the world has gone to crap.’ You’re correct that the first is subjective. But the second isn’t.

I would say the second is largely a matter of perspective too. Who has it gone to crap for? Everyone? I don't think that's accurate

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Locke

Pft...crazy entitled rich people....always assuming there was ever even a glass to begin with.

I cup my hands together to make a cup. Are these "glasses" some kind of new European fad?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I cup my hands together to make a cup. Are these "glasses" some kind of new European fad?

Pfft...'hands.' Like an Aristocrat. Some people just have to shove their faces into the trough...like animals!

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Dion

Pessimists create their own problems and should take responsibiliy for it. They act as if the world revolves around them and feel that the rest of the world should just drop everything they are doing to help them. Screw that!

You want help? Take my advice and seek out some professional help. Someone who is trained to deal with and tolerate your constant negitivity. It's not our fault that you live in a world of perpetual gloom and doom.

Pessimists are apathetic and dismissive. Instead of looking at the glass as being half full or half empty. To them the glass is completely empty.

In the mean time, #### off and tell your pessimisim to someone who cares!

Putin probably feels the exact same way. Anyone who feels negatively about him or the way he does things is just a pessimist who needs to seek professional help. Same goes for Nazi Germany. Pessimistic Jews created their own bad situation and should point the finger at themselves.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by Matata

The polar ice caps were supposed to melt 10 years ago, so this is all gravy time. Live it up, have some kids, eviscerate a dog, the worlds a beautiful place.

To paraphase a quote "somewhere out there, some fool is peacefully meditating next to a waterfall, completely unaware of terrified he should be of everything." Participation in the fear-parade is a choice, dont surrender your mind to the fear mongers.

I know this is from page 1... But WTF dude... I think you might need some help

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Preach brother

I see death every night at work, I've lost a child, and yet it's browsing CP that's often the most depressing part of my day. I can't even go into the hockey part of the site right now

I thought you worked for the city? Weren't you building that dirt beam across memorial during the rainfall?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Putin probably feels the exact same way. Anyone who feels negatively about him or the way he does things is just a pessimist who needs to seek professional help. Same goes for Nazi Germany. Pessimistic Jews created their own bad situation and should point the finger at themselves.

Less than 100 posts. Good job everyone. Close ‘er up.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Locke

Pfft...'hands.' Like an Aristocrat. Some people just have to shove their faces into the trough...like animals!

A realist doesn't need a glass. They know enough not to drink the dirty water.