[PGT] Flames defeat the Blackhawks 5-2!

[Nammer403]

Didnt know staying in front of the opposing defender in your own zone was cherry picking..

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Amazing that 13-28-19 has been the top line in the league despite two of the players always cherry picking at the opposition blue line.

Originally Posted by OldSam

Hard to call them cherrypickers when then score while protecting the lead in their own defensive zone. Boy those Greaser fans don't really know much.

I watched them carefully when I went to the St Louis game. No Flames cherry pick. What they do is skate very quickly from blue line to blue line. This is a tactic that the coaches want them to do. The centerman then either carries the puck out, passes it to one of the "cherry pickers", or passes it back to a dman and then the center rushes out the zone, depending on what the other team is doing.

[Locke]

Were I the coach in this situation, playing for absolutely nothing at all, I’d just turn to the players and tell them to just go full pond hockey, do some crazy ####, play Lank as top line center, ice a line with no D-men, shoot the puck holding the stick like a pool cue, just utter nonsense for 60 minutes. Waiting to hear from Kyle.

I like the cut of this man's jib. I would like to subscribe to his newsletter.

[Kovaz]

Funny how Gaudreau and Tkachuk can both cherry-pick and still allow fewer goals against than almost every Oiler. That would mean...


Wait, no. That checks out, actually. Not sure what my point was.

[Enoch Root]

First, 2nd, and 3rd in the league in +/-.

"They are both cherry pickers!"

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

First, 2nd, and 3rd in the league in +/-.

"They are both cherry pickers!"

Well the other teams don't really want to score against the Flames, they are saving it all to show McDavid up, because he is the standard against which all hockey players measure themselves, and the only thing that someone can think about upon entering Alberta.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Magic number for the division is down to 3 points.

We have locked up any possible tiebreaker over Edmonton.

rick ball said the magic number was 2 after the win i thought, did something change or was i hallucinating lol?

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

rick ball said the magic number was 2 after the win i thought, did something change or was i hallucinating lol?

When Rick said 2 games, I don't think he took the RW into consideration. Even if the oilers win out, they can not equal or beat our current RW. so 3 points or 1.5 wins is where we sit now.

[thefoss1957]

I had posted this in the GT, but, as the ENGs are being discussed (or complained about) here, I will repeat:


"I had read somewhere that statistics guys have decided that the risk from icing calls is far lower than the reward of taking those long shots. Firing from all over will become the norm for ENGs."

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I had posted this in the GT, but, as the ENGs are being discussed (or complained about) here, I will repeat:


"I had read somewhere that statistics guys have decided that the risk from icing calls is far lower than the reward of taking those long shots. Firing from all over will become the norm for ENGs."

This has to be correct. Put it this way - you'd take a freeze by the goalie all day long when facing an extra man situation. That's all an icing equals, except an icing drops a couple seconds off the clock.

[Enoch Root]

yeah, it's no contest - shoot the puck and take your chances

[djsFlames]

Amazing feat to cherry pick and be a +60.

Must have two Lindstroms on defense.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I had posted this in the GT, but, as the ENGs are being discussed (or complained about) here, I will repeat:


"I had read somewhere that statistics guys have decided that the risk from icing calls is far lower than the reward of taking those long shots. Firing from all over will become the norm for ENGs."

I've been saying this for years. Fire pucks from everywhere. Even if you miss, you are eating up valuable seconds until the whistle blows.

[jg13]

Gaudreau has generational or close to generational anticipation, which to people who don't watch him game in game out could look like cherry picking.

But the stats don't lie he takes care of his own end first and once he sees the transition coming he's like a ghost and gets behind defenders before they know it.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

This has to be correct. Put it this way - you'd take a freeze by the goalie all day long when facing an extra man situation. That's all an icing equals, except an icing drops a couple seconds off the clock.

Minus the part about not being able to switch up your players but I still agree with the strategy.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I had posted this in the GT, but, as the ENGs are being discussed (or complained about) here, I will repeat:


"I had read somewhere that statistics guys have decided that the risk from icing calls is far lower than the reward of taking those long shots. Firing from all over will become the norm for ENGs."

Stats guys were also saying to that teams should be much quicker to pull the goalie. I wonder how much that was based on defending teams not shooting from everywhere.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by SebC

Stats guys were also saying to that teams should be much quicker to pull the goalie. I wonder how much that was based on defending teams not shooting from everywhere.

It does make sense that wasn’t necessarily factored heavily earlier on. It has become a norm more so now, where an icing is acceptable as a trade-off

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Minus the part about not being able to switch up your players but I still agree with the strategy.

Fair point. If the defenders are bagged it’s riskier. Though pro athletes can get a fair bit of recovery during the icing and before the puck drops. Plus most coaches won’t have burned a time out yet.

[CroFlames]

It's simple.

Would Sutter allow cherry picking on his team?

Surely even an obtuse oiler fan would know the answer to that.

[tvp2003]

Has there ever been a situation -- EVER -- where a team is down by one, and:

1) They pull the goalie
2) The other team scores an ENG to go up by two
3) They pull the goalie again
4) They score twice to tie it?

I know there have been situations where a team is down by two, and they score two with the goalie pulled to tie it. I've also seen situations where you pull the goalie, let in an ENG, and then score one before time expires but still end up losing the game.