Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Hard to imagine he walks away from $5M.

At his age, he might be too injured to play the season.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Hard to imagine he walks away from $5M.

Pretty sure he only makes 1M next year

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Magiapane is the not the driver of the offence, he is the finisher.

No one dislikes him, but many feel that this may well be his career year, and don't want to pay in the future for that.

A core piece likely has to go. Who do you think it should be, if not Mangiapane?

Who says a driver can’t be a finisher too? I think Ovechkin and Matthews are drivers as well and they’re 2 of the best goal scorers in the game today.

Well, this is where I think Brad Treliving put himself in a tough spot here. I think he really wanted to maximize his window and actually, he pretty much admitted to this on the Fan 960 a few weeks ago. So now he will have to make some tough decisions here or as he put it, “move heaven and earth” to re-sign these guys.

Obviously Monahan’s contract has to go. Ideally Lucic, but you can’t move that thing. I don’t think a buyout yields much in terms of cap relief, so the Flames may be stuck with it. Therefore, I could very well see a Dube or even a Hanifin move being made to get things done.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

Pretty sure he only makes 1M next year

4 Million.

3 on the signing bonus due July 1 and 1M salary for the season.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by transplant99

4 Million.

3 on the signing bonus due July 1 and 1M salary for the season.

He doesn't have to walk away from the money if the team pays him to stay on in a 1.5 or 2 mil a season roll as a non player

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

Pretty sure he only makes 1M next year

He has a $3M bonus which would count as salary. He can’t accept that and simply walk away.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

He doesn't have to walk away from the money if the team pays him to stay on in a 1.5 or 2 mil a season roll as a non player

I rate the chances of Calgary participating in cap circumvention at zero.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

He has a $3M bonus which would count as salary. He can’t accept that and simply walk away.

Why not?

You cash the cheque on July 1st. Then you decide that the body and mind aren't up for another season. Done. You don't have to give the money back.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

At his age, he might be too injured to play the season.

I doubt the Flames or Lucic would do that unless he was legitimately injured.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why not?

You cash the cheque on July 1st. Then you decide that the body and mind aren't up for another season. Done. You don't have to give the money back.

Even if he could do that, which I doubt, that $3M would still count against the cap.it doesn’t disappear. The bonus counts as part of his salary and cap for that season.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

sign both 8 x $9.5
maybe Johnny for 7 years

If it were only this easy

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Even if he could do that, which I doubt, that $3M would still count against the cap.it doesn’t disappear. The bonus counts as part of his salary and cap for that season.

No it wouldn't. If he retires, his salary, and his cap hit, disappear.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Brouwer is off the books after this season as well.

Brouwer.


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[BigRed]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

At his age, he might be too injured to play the season.

Lucic is a competitor. He’ll accept a lesser role, but he’ll want to play.

He’s a fiery guy with limited use on the ice these days. But someone will want him. He’s a shining example of GAF for an inexperienced team out there. I’ll be sad to see him go.


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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No it wouldn't. If he retires, his salary, and his cap hit, disappear.

Only if he refunds the signing bonus, as I understand the matter.

[PeteMoss]

I do think people are going overboard on what players are going to get paid this of season. Gaudreau, yes someone will break the bank on. But it's a flat cap, no one is going to fly in with a mega rfa deal for mangiapane.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No it wouldn't. If he retires, his salary, and his cap hit, disappear.

Zero chance he gets paid $3M for the season and it doesn’t count against the cap. Only unpaid amounts disappear.

[Vinny01]

Johnny would no looking for a max term deal but I wonder if Chucky would consider looking at another 3 year deal which would lower the cap and still give him flexibility if the cap is going to rise significantly in 3 years

[Southside403]

Does anyone ever think about Monahan future affects Gaudreau future? Those 2 are very tight hope he doesn't bolt be crushed

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I think "Toffoli money" would be fair for Mangiapane.

Mangiapane is a better player. But he doesn’t have a better record thus far in his career.

His bargaining power is not that strong. He has one great year and only two middling years to back himself up

Will he have more individual success by the end of it? Probably. But Toffoli has been a reliable scorer for some years, including a 30 goal season — and he has won two Stanley cups. That matters.

If I’m Treliving, he’s my comparable — and I’m asking the Mangiapane camp why they think he should even make as much as TT.


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