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Old 03-02-2022, 09:03 PM   #2541
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I'm kind of curious how they do get the weapons in. I am assuming that they get delivered to the border of one of the NATO countries, then the Ukrainian military picks them up. There can't be any safe air corridors, can there?
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:05 PM   #2542
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I think there is "safe" airports in the west part of the country. I saw a video of Georgian ex-military volunteers deplaning from a C5 galaxy somewhere in Ukraine yesterday.
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:08 PM   #2543
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Gimme a break. How is lamenting that people are going to be slaughtered manipulating anything? You guys are incredible.
If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t think you were being manipulative, I just thought you were doing the thing you do where you word something poorly and get mad when it’s understood in the exact way you worded it
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Gimme a break. How is lamenting that people are going to be slaughtered manipulating anything? You guys are incredible.
Your post doesn't read like you are lamenting anything, your post said that because we can get weapons we should be able to get out the people. This statement puts blame on the western power for the humanitarian crisis, when there are only two countries to blame, Russia and Belarus.

Either that or you didn't think about the logistics involved in moving inanimate objects vs people. (which in the emotion of this crisis I'd understand, but your "thanks for the input" comment clearly this isn't the case)

If you did not mean to assign blame for the humanitarian crisis on the countries helping Ukraine, fine (not like I'm one to talk for accidentally saying something I didn't mean on a post). If you did mean to put blame on anyone but Russia and Belarus for the humanitarian crisis, my outrage stands.
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I'm kind of curious how they do get the weapons in. I am assuming that they get delivered to the border of one of the NATO countries, then the Ukrainian military picks them up. There can't be any safe air corridors, can there?
Ukraine has large land borders with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania so you can just drive trucks over the border and hand the keys to Ukrainian soldiers.

Russia also seems to be avoiding the west, so there are probably safe airports there.

There have also been reports of pilots travelling out of the country to pick planes up, so I guess their logistic officers could do the same.
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:15 PM   #2546
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:26 PM   #2547
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I'm kind of curious how they do get the weapons in. I am assuming that they get delivered to the border of one of the NATO countries, then the Ukrainian military picks them up. There can't be any safe air corridors, can there?
I’ve been wondering the same thing. It would be great if they had extra troops to come in from the border with the weapons and hit the Russians from behind but I doubt that is how battles work.
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:26 PM   #2548
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You know what, I should be thanking you. I mean really, it’s fantastic that you took the time from your busy evening to point out that we can’t transport humans in crates like we can with weapons. You know, I knew we could do it with veal, so I just thought that it would work with people.
Slava I don’t generally agree with most of what you post but I’d be lying if I said how much you’re doubling down on this one isn’t a little entertaining to watch.

Edit- nice I caught this before you edited your post
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:09 PM   #2549
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Kherson fully under Russian control, Mariupol encircled and under siege.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:12 PM   #2550
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I'm kind of curious how they do get the weapons in. I am assuming that they get delivered to the border of one of the NATO countries, then the Ukrainian military picks them up. There can't be any safe air corridors, can there?
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1499164245250002944

Really interesting thread of tweets about why we may be seeing so many abandoned Russian vehicles and why it may be big for the Ukraine efforts (spoiler alert - more Russian incompetence)

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Call me old fashioned, but I think children and one primary care giver per child should be prioritized (typically the mother), followed by the elderly, then able bodied women, and then able bodied men - regardless of nationality. I know it is probably an outdated concept to some, but I find the footage of young single men escaping cringey regardless of whether they are Ukrainians or foreigners. Young men shouldn't be taking seats from women and children.

I am pretty sure that most, if not all foreign nationals in Ukraine were asked by their home countries to leave days, if not weeks before the war broke out.
When were single guys "taking seats"?

In terms of people fleeing the cities, the trains were letting everybody on, whether or not they had fare.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:20 PM   #2553
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Ukraine invites Russian mothers to fetch captured soldiers

"A decision has been taken to hand over captured Russian troops to their mothers if they come to collect them in Ukraine, in Kyiv. Unlike Putin's fascists, we Ukrainians are not waging war against mothers and their captured children," the defence ministry said in a statement.

https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2022/...tured-soldiers

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Old 03-02-2022, 10:28 PM   #2554
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Does anyone outside of Russia (or possibly one of Putin's puppet states) support Russia's war in the Ukraine? I'd be curious to see what the rationale is. Putin's line is that Ukraine is not a democracy at all, but some kind of Neo-Nazi state trying to force themselves upon the Ukrainians who yearn for liberation. It's totally non-sensical.

Use of the Nazi rhetoric seems almost like a way to personally attack the Ukrainian president, who is Jewish and lost most of his relatives in the holocaust.

Yes . There are people that support Russia outside of Russia .

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Old 03-02-2022, 10:31 PM   #2555
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Gimme a break. How is lamenting that people are going to be slaughtered manipulating anything? You guys are incredible.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:36 PM   #2556
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Love seeing a $15M AA truck get torched due to Russian incompetence.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:59 PM   #2557
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Love seeing a $15M AA truck get torched due to Russian incompetence.

How about this one? Barely used - basically all the ammunition too.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1499208585217073152
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:05 PM   #2558
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How about this one? Barely used - basically all the ammunition too.
Someday there's going to be a movie made about this war, and there's gonna be some real funny moments.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1499200835695169539
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Someday there's going to be a movie made about this war, and there's gonna be some real funny moments.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1499200835695169539
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