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Old 02-14-2022, 12:39 PM   #441
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Great move. I'm glad the roster was kept in tact and they are taking the risk to go for a deep run. There aren't many windows to go for it but it seems appropriate this year. Great job by Treliving.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:39 PM   #442
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They're comparing it to their acquiring AA.

Flames going all in on a "mediocre team"

It's cool, sometimes we can cut our neighbours to the North a break. Let them think we're making a mistake on this "mediocre" team as it's likely the only reprieve they get from their agonizing existence.

They go out and get "THE" UFA forward in Zach Hyman.

...we sign Blake Coleman to a more reasonable deal.

They spent two 2nd round picks on 9 games of Andreas Athanasiou

...we trade a 1st, a B prospect, a 5th and a dump for 2.5 years of Tyler Toffoli

We sign Jacob Markstrom

...they extend a 400 year old belly flopper

We hire Darryl Sutter

...they hire Jay something or other

We sign Chris Tanev

...they pay Nurse $9.25M
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:40 PM   #443
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what stuns me about the Toffoli contract is that he signed that deal without any NMC/NTC type of protection. Extremely team-friendly deal.
Yes a lot of players took discounts that year. Teams simply didn't have the cap-space with the cap not increasing. Hoffman signed a 1 year $4M. Barry for $3.75M. The bottom line is that a lot of bargain deals were signed and we get 3 of them in Markstrom, Tanev, and Toffoli. It's funny that they were all playing for the Canucks the year before too.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:41 PM   #444
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Why hasn’t this been posted yet!?

Guess who’s back? Back again?
Tre is back, tell a friend….
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:41 PM   #445
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It's a fair number of assets to give up. But it does offer the chance at a big time upgrade to the forward ranks that the team does need.

My old world brain that judges more on feel than analytics thinks this is a good move and a good fit. Last year I was pretty critical of some of the Flames spending where I thought Tafoli's price seemed well within reach where the team could have made a play to sign him. Of course not knowing all the factors that resulted in him picking Montreal. So I am happy to see him on the team today. Hopefully he's in line for back to back cup runs and will see a better result this time.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:41 PM   #446
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Any tearful "Calgary massively overpaid for this" reactions from the Oilers' forums yet?
Not really...mostly a mixture between "this is what Holland should be doing" and "it doesn't matter, they're losing Tkachuk and Gaudreau next year anyway".

As I mentioned in the E=NG thread, even one saying all they need to do is trade Kassian to free up cap space. Problem solved.
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Flames TV will be talking to Toffoli soon here:
https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/fla...092/c-40471703
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:41 PM   #448
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I still wouldn't mind seeing the Flames get another forward before the deadline to upgrade the bottom 6.
Holding out hope for a 3rd line center, if they can somehow shed Monahan. Need more from that spot, though you give Monahan a couple weeks with a new line mate to see if that's all that was missing.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:41 PM   #449
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Yeah...hard to argue with adding a player like Toffoli without changing or moving anyone of the Game Day lineup.

Kind of like what the Oilers did with Kane, except good.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:42 PM   #450
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The Habs now have two Pitlicks
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Coiler Reddit:. Flames just gave up a 1st, 5th, and good prospect for a top 6 forward. Oilers signed a top 6 forward for free. Somehow, that's a loss for Holland?
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:44 PM   #452
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Toffoli is - 8 on Habs team that is - 75 goal differential
Pretty not too bad
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It's a Pitlick Potluck
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This is by-far the biggest in-season acquisition since Treliving became the GM, and probably the team's biggest since Jokinen in 2009 (the Bourque-Cammalleri deal is the only other one that comes close, but they both needed a fresh-start at that time).
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He checks off a lot of the boxes: Right hand shot, Darryl coached him in LAX, Muller coached him in MTL, Monahan's old linemate in junior, tenure left on his contract, cap friendly number, Lucic mentored him in LA.
If Toffoli can somehow revive Monahan, that's a double win.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:47 PM   #456
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Toffoli on live with Parker now.
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Not really...mostly a mixture between "this is what Holland should be doing" and "it doesn't matter, they're losing Tkachuk and Gaudreau next year anyway".

As I mentioned in the E=NG thread, even one saying all they need to do is trade Kassian to free up cap space. Problem solved.
It's really funny that they think it's a foregone conclusion that Gaudreau is set on 10M+ and is signing elsewhere and Tkachuk is holding out to become a St Louis Blue.

They're in for a rude awakening when both guys are extended.
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:48 PM   #459
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Honestly, a very good trade for Calgary. didn't give up any roster players or top prospects...

this is exactly the kind of player you need for a playoff push
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Old 02-14-2022, 12:52 PM   #460
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We have finally addressed this organizations biggest positional need. RHS RW to play in our top 6!

Toffoli also has a wicked one-timer which will improve the 2nd PP unit (if placed there)

I've been calling for this trade for months. I am so excited that Treliving pulled the trigger and made this team better.
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