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			11-04-2021, 06:25 PM
			
			
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				They’ve been pretty bad. 
			
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They’re probably exhausted from winning back to back titles.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:44 PM
			
			
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				Get what? Tampa has been forever in cap trouble and they won the last 2 cups 
 
The NHL salary cap is a joke with so many loopholes. Treliving is not smart enough to manage it 
			
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Let's see how many cups Vegas wins before crowning them.
 
You think they are just going to drop Eichel in game one of the playoffs and be off and running?  Vegas is not Tampa of the last two seasons.  Not even close.  Will be a stretch for Vegas to make the playoffs at all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 06:44 PM
			
			
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				Who said bottom feeder? Anybody? 
 
Is Toronto a bottom feeder with Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Reilly, and Muzzin? No, but it looks scarier than what Vegas is running up front, and they aren't exactly knocking on the door of the Stanley Cup Finals. 
			
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Is Vegas going to be too top heavy, too thin and a worse team with Eichel added? 
What exactly is the point you're trying to make?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:48 PM
			
			
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				They’re probably exhausted from winning back to back titles. 
			
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Or lost all their depth
 
Any of you chest thumpers will to bet on Vegas winning a cup in the next 3 seasons?  
 
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			11-04-2021, 06:48 PM
			
			
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				Let's see how many cups Vegas wins before crowning them. 
 
You think they are just going to drop Eichel in game one of the playoffs and be off and running?  Vegas is not Tampa of the last two seasons.  Not even close.  Will be a stretch for Vegas to make the playoffs at all. 
			
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They don’t need to be off and running this year.
 
They secured a top-5 centre who just turned 25. 
 
They very likely just  kicked open a window that’s six or seven years.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:50 PM
			
			
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				Is Vegas going to be too top heavy, too thin and a worse team with Eichel added? 
What exactly is the point you're trying to make? 
			
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Let's see your cap compliant Knights roster....you keep saying Eichel added 
 
MAF out 
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Over 10M more out to come
 
Drop Eichel in for game one of the playoffs?  Doubt it...they probably won't make it
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 06:50 PM
			
			
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				They’re probably exhausted from winning back to back titles. 
			
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They are bad because they lost a lot of depth and then lost their best forward.
 
And you all are missing my point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:51 PM
			
			
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			Feels like there should be a new poll on this at some point (probably 0.086 seconds after our next regulation loss). 8.5 months is a long time and I bet some of the 800+ respondents would vote differently the next time a poll like this is raised.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:51 PM
			
			
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				They don’t need to be off and running this year. 
 
They secured a top-5 centre who just turned 25.  
 
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That window is spring-loaded and will slam shut on their foot as soon as they have to get under next season's cap. The players now on their roster will  never play together as a team, unless they Kucherov their way to keep them together for this year's playoffs.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				They are bad because they lost a lot of depth and then lost their best forward. 
			
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A trade they’d make all over again for two titles.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:51 PM
			
			
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				Let's see your cap compliant Knights roster....you keep saying Eichel added  
 
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Drop Eichel in for game one of the playoffs?  Doubt it...they probably won't make it 
			
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I'm sure their management knows they have to work within the cap. You're not the first to discover that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:52 PM
			
			
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				They don’t need to be off and running this year. 
 
They secured a top-5 centre who just turned 25.  
 
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Remains to be seen....very likely? No
 
Some of their contracts don't seem to be aging well.  They could just as easily be SJ 2.0
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				A trade they’d make all over again for two titles. 
			
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Again, not my point, but you be you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 06:52 PM
			
			
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				I'm sure their management knows they have to work within the cap. You're not the first to discover that. 
			
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There are a lot of people who think that all their injured players can return without bodies going out. Those people obviously don't know the team has to work within the cap.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 06:54 PM
			
			
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				I'm sure their management knows they have to work within the cap. You're not the first to discover that. 
			
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Yet you keep saying adding Eichel like they aren't subtracting 4+ major pieces
 
MAF has been the biggest reason for their success so far as a franchise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 06:58 PM
			
			
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				Is Monahan enjoying superstars Lucic and Lewis that much 
 
They may assist on finding a pto when his contract is up 
			
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Such a bad take.
 
Monahan isn't going to have any trouble getting another NHL contract as long as his health holds up.
 
He has 4 points in 9 games ... 40 point players aren't on PTOs.
 
Add in the nine games are after major surgery and he's being walked back slowly and you likely have those numbers improve.
 
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			11-04-2021, 07:02 PM
			
			
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				Yet you keep saying adding Eichel like they aren't subtracting 4+ major pieces 
			
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What do you mean I keep adding Eichel? 
Vegas added Eichel, you know in the trade today??
 
It goes without saying they have to fit him into the cap and make moves to do so. Every move in the NHL needs to do this, it shouldn't need to be explained to you.
 
What I said to be exact is "Vegas likely has both now (being elite talent and depth). 
No where did I say their team will be exactly as is, you made that up on your own.
 
I believe that they will still have a deep team after they're all said and done and finish their cap correction. You're welcome to disagree, no need to resort to your silly arguments with made up dialogues.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-04-2021, 07:02 PM
			
			
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				There are a lot of people who think that all their injured players can return without bodies going out. Those people obviously don't know the team has to work within the cap. 
			
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They think Vegas can make the playoffs with their current roster...which is unlikely
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 07:03 PM
			
			
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				Remains to be seen....very likely? No 
 
Some of their contracts don't seem to be aging well.  They could just as easily be SJ 2.0 
			
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From the time the Sharks acquired 26 year old Joe Thornton, they won 16 playoff rounds. In total, they have  19 playoff rounds won this century. 
 
They went to the Conference Finals five times, made one finals appearance.
 
It doesn’t matter that they didn’t cash one in - that sort of sustained success is unheard of. 
 
This is hard. You wouldn’t take San Jose 2.0 for the next 15 years?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-04-2021, 07:05 PM
			
			
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				What do you mean I keep adding Eichel? 
Vegas added Eichel, you know in the trade today?? 
 
It goes without saying they have to fit him into the cap and make moves to do so. Every move in the NHL needs to do this, it shouldn't need to be explained to you. 
 
What I said to be exact is "Vegas likely has both now (being elite talent and depth). 
No where did I say their team will be exactly as is, you made that up on your own. 
 
I believe that they will still have a deep team after they're all said and done and finish their cap correction. You're welcome to disagree, no need to resort to your silly arguments with made up dialogues. 
			
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You were talking about their past success and now adding Eichel.  Past success is irrelevant it's a different team.  They won't have any depth.  Look at the roster!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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