[Trade] Eichel + 3rd to Vegas for Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 3rd

[Iginla]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

No...I said he isn't an insider and I trusted Friedman.

Ah, smart man.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by stang

https://twitter.com/drdrai2/status/1...857550345?s=21

https://twitter.com/user/status/1456258957857550345

If the Flames are the bridesmaids that means the Oilers are the flower girls.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Feels like we’re destined never to have an elite first line center again.

You have to draft them. You have to get them the same way Edmonton got McDavid, Buffalo got Eichel, Pittsburgh got Crosby/Malkin, Boston got Thornton, and so on. Extremely difficult to do though if you are not drafting in the top 3 ever. For people who never want to sell and bottom out, that is the price.

If people are just waiting until one is available through trade so we can overpay and sell the farm to get him, you'll be waiting forever.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

You have to draft them. You have to get them the same way Edmonton got McDavid, Buffalo got Eichel, Pittsburgh got Crosby/Malkin, Boston got Thornton, and so on. Extremely difficult to do though if you are not drafting in the top 3 ever. For people who never want to sell and bottom out, that is the price.

If people are just waiting until one is available through trade so we can overpay and sell the farm to get him, you'll be waiting forever.

It's still not too late to tank for Shane Wright, and then Connor Bedard. It really isn't.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

It's still not too late to tank for Shane Wright, and then Connor Bedard. It really isn't.

I don’t agree with the tank method. Not only are there too many variables but I would bet good money we would end up with the leafs luck and get the ‘Marner’ while the ‘McDavid’ falls into the lap of another team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Tuch is a good player as well. He'll get a bigger role in Buffalo and should get back to the 20 goal guy again.

Hell, he had 18 in the short last season. He’s significantly underrated.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

It's still not too late to tank for Shane Wright, and then Connor Bedard. It really isn't.

Yeah it is.

You're not out tanking Chicago or Arizona this year. Montreal, Seattle, and Ottawa aren't good either.

But even if you do tank and finish 3rd worst overall - that means you have 10.9% odds of Wright.

Honestly tanking for Wright or Bedard isn't a realistic option, and at best you're looking at between an 8-10% chance of getting the player anyways.

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

People are acting as though Tuch was a throw-in, but 6-4 220 lbs forwards who can skate like he does and score 20+ goals don’t grow in trees. Even more valuable when they’re 25 years old and locked in at $4.75 mil for four more years.

This is a good point.

Outside of Hanifin, Andersson, or Lindholm we dont have any younger players locked into a value contract for 3+ years. That term has value for a Sabres team struggling to keep players. (Guess you could include Dube too - but he hasn't broken out yet).

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

That’s good news and I appreciate KA for clarifying… Kevin Weekes and all the other pundits who jumped on that BS rumour started by Weekes are jokes and it’s part of why this fanbase is so worked up now.

He probably has to clear that up not for the Flames but because a lot of Sabres fans are thinking today that the Weekes rumoured return is a lot better than what they ended up getting.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

It's still not too late to tank for Shane Wright, and then Connor Bedard. It really isn't.

If you want to cheer for a tanking team, Arizona could probably use the fans.

I dunno, maybe just me, but I'm enjoying winning.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Hell, he had 18 in the short last season. He’s significantly underrated.

That's why I think it's not a stretch that be ends up the best player in the deal for the Sabres.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames are building a team to compete for the next decade and by that you mean being a bubble team that is too good to bottom out but not good enough to get past the 1st-2nd round of the playoffs.

We'll see, but Jack Eichel hasn't shown the ability to elevate a squad, let's see what a damaged Eichel does. I believe some are sleeping on what the Flames have in waiting, and the present team, now being properly utilized, is a threat. I understand Eichel could make a difference, but it was going to cost plenty to see that hand. Maybe your right, maybe not, but I personally see a lot in the present team, and having been to a number of Stockton games, see more than Kyllington, Anderson and Mangiapane being NHL types. I understand disappointment, as Eichel represents near term hope, I'm just glad management doesn't bend to similar emotions. Vegas is transforming a competitive machine into the island of misfit toys.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Tuch is a good player as well. He'll get a bigger role in Buffalo and should get back to the 20 goal guy again.

People are acting as though Tuch was a throw-in, but 6-4 220 lbs forwards who can skate like he does and score 20+ goals don’t grow in trees. Even more valuable when they’re 25 years old and locked in at $4.75 mil for four more years.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

If you want to cheer for a tanking team, Arizona could probably use the fans.

I dunno, maybe just me, but I'm enjoying winning.

I cheer for the Flames. Win or lose. Mediocrity or whatever exists outside mediocrity which I'm not quite familiar with.

[Stillman16]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Yes. As does the 3rd going the other way. And yes, there’s a chance that could happen. Stone now has to sit for at least another week, and VGK have lost Tuch and still can’t activate Eichel until they can shed more than $10M in cap. So who’s going to be their #1C to lead them into a playoff position?

Also, if you’re Buffalo, and looking at the current situation of both teams, the Vegas pick has a higher potential to be the higher pick. Vegas is stumbling out the gate, Buffalo got one of their good players, and Vegas will have to clear space to fit Eichel into the cap structure.

Also, since Vegas has the room, due to LTIR, Buffalo doesn’t have to take on any cap dump! Buffalo must have weighed the packages, and determined flexibility trumps whatever sweeteners Calgary might have been offering…

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1456277658518659072

Meh... thanks but no thanks it’s probably where the leak came to begin with. Damage control.

[SuperMatt18]

Rumors or not id be pretty annoyed by that return as a Sabres fan.

Krebs is good but not some sure thing prospect. He's equal to Zary IMO

Tuch is a nice piece.

2022 1st is good but having top 10 protection really reduces its value.

I wouldn't like that return as a Sabres fan.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

If you want to cheer for a tanking team, Arizona could probably use the fans.

I dunno, maybe just me, but I'm enjoying winning.

The Flames aren't exactly the team to cheer for for people who enjoy winning either. I think everyone's here posting because we cheer for the Flames.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I cheer for the Flames. Win or lose. Mediocrity or whatever exists outside mediocrity which I'm not quite familiar with.

There's a difference between cheering for a team win or lose, and cheering for a team to lose.

One is typical of an actual fan of the team, the other really isn't.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

There's a difference between cheering for a team win or lose, and cheering for a team to lose.

One is typical of an actual fan of the team, the other really isn't.

Cheering for a team to fulfil the conditions required to get better is not "cheering for the team to lose". It's cheering for the team to win in the long run.

[Gaskal]

Feels like Buffalo really tunnel visioned on Krebs. Perhaps Tuch to a lesser extent but definitely on Peyton Krebs.

Why couldn't have they tunnel visioned on Coronato? Bah humbug. He's nicknamed 'The Bison' for frig's sake.