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Old 08-23-2021, 06:02 PM   #1281
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At least move this tire fire to the Covid forum? At this point it’s a stretch to pretend it’s even tangentially still related to hockey. “K everyone will require vaccines to attend games now let’s hear from Alex Jones”
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:04 PM   #1282
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The unvaxxed crowd will kick and scream all the way to the pharmacists chair

But make no mistake, they'll get there.

Unvaxxed bans are only going to multiply from here. Have fun trying to hold up progress living like hermits. Soon that's all you'll be able to do.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:05 PM   #1283
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Still think you're missing the point.

It's not misinformation because you say it is. Someone would have to prove that it is in fact misinformation which would get exhausting.

People have posted well over a dozen links in the last hour.

Should I read all of them and make a call? No thanks!
Yup...people can make their own decisions based on all the links posted.

People that read the stuff posted by Housley and crew and nod their head to it were never getting a shot to begin with. More people will be persuaded to get the shot with the Flames actions today than those that wont because of the great conspiracy.

It really has to suck to be an anti-vaxxer though with the realization you are clearly coming down on the wrong side of history with this thing. I think its why they are getting more aggressive and doubling down on the nonsense.

Losing that grip on what you thought was real has to triggering.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:08 PM   #1284
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But YOU can still spread it! In fact, because all the jab does is reduce your symptoms and not prevent you from getting it, you're all the more of a risk for getting people sick. The virus doesn't mutate because I merely exist. It mutates because the vaccine isn't 100% effective. In fact, its efficacy drops over time, so get ready for endless boosters for the rest of your life.
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Wrong again! Do you ever get tired of being wrong? It must be thoroughly exhausting. Maybe re-examine were you get your information from, because your sources appear to be dumber than squirrels, and they are dragging you down to their level. Or keep getting dumber, your call!

Fine with a yearly booster, I get a flu shot every year. No big deal.

*Holding out hope a mod might maybe realize this guy is not good for the site(or humanity)...
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:24 PM   #1285
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It’s like these guys each tag in for a day, get roundly shown as either idiots or liars and then turn it over to the next guy.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:25 PM   #1286
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Years ago, I used to spend a significant amount of time posting in sovereign citizen/freeman-on-the-land forums. I very patiently, very painstakingly, and very respectfully attempted to debunk many, many stupid, ridiculous and potentially harmful arguments (which were based in clear and obvious misunderstandings about statehood, sovereignty and the law.) In my war against woo, I cited cases, legislation and treatises.

Eventually, I reached a point where I wasn't sure whether I was doing my more harm than good. So I stopped.

I'm still not sure what the right thing to do is when confronted with other types of woo (like on this thread).
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:27 PM   #1287
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Also, I sympathize with the moderators with respect to the position threads like this put them in. It isn't an easy one.
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It’s like these guys each tag in for a day, get roundly shown as either idiots or liars and then turn it over to the next guy.
Each with the same arguments, the same claims, the same links, and the same holier than thou snark.

And each one completely ignores the fact that their claims, and all the priors, have been debunked over and over.

It follows the identical path every time. It's really quite astounding to watch.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:10 PM   #1289
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Still think you're missing the point.

It's not misinformation because you say it is. Someone would have to prove that it is in fact misinformation which would get exhausting.

People have posted well over a dozen links in the last hour.

Should I read all of them and make a call? No thanks!
This sets the precedent for being able to post some pretty awful and/or dangerous stuff, as long as you have a link. It also puts others in the spot of feeling obligated to refute the false information.

People spreading the BS have a wonderful tactic that gives them a huge advantage. They can pump out "links" far faster than anyone can cite sources to counter the disinformation.

And now your site is pages upon pages of back and forth
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If the anti-vax crowd just read for a minute and put their hubris aside, it probably wouldn't be a thing anymore.

Ego and poor literacy/reasoning. A dangerous combination.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:19 PM   #1291
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I'm sure this has been mentioned in here already, but will you be required too show proof of vaccination at the door, or when you buy the tickets? Eg. Show proof of Vaccine when purchasing on Ticketmaster?

Also, when are tickets going on sale for this season? I can't find anything on Ticketmaster
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The proof will be a barcode on your phone that links to your digital vaccine record. It won't be a paper card. Many countries have been doing this for a long time already. You just "tap" your phone by holding it a few inches away from a scanner, similar to the self checkout at a grocery store.
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Guy who says he's being accused of getting his info from facebook proceeds to spew nutjob facebook 'facts' to prove his nonsensical views.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:23 PM   #1294
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:25 PM   #1295
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I wonder if Cavalry FC gets on board now.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:27 PM   #1296
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I wonder if Cavalry FC gets on board now.
I hope so, but I can see it being more challenging mid-season.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:31 PM   #1297
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You know what would be nice? If everyone just got the vaccine so we didn’t have to have this debate. This issue is entirely avoidable.

The vaccine is safe. It’s effective. It’s a testament to modern medicine.

Look, I don’t like the idea of having to show a passport or medical records to private businesses either. I really don’t. But that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make so that we can go back to normal.

You can have a normal life again too. All you have to do is get a harmless vaccine. That’s it.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:41 PM   #1298
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Wrong again! Do you ever get tired of being wrong? It must be thoroughly exhausting. Maybe re-examine were you get your information from, because your sources appear to be dumber than squirrels, and they are dragging you down to their level. Or keep getting dumber, your call!

Fine with a yearly booster, I get a flu shot every year. No big deal.

*Holding out hope a mod might maybe realize this guy is not good for the site(or humanity)...
I personally find the discourse is much more valuable by letting posters have free reign for the most part. Bad posts with misinformation are readily and quickly shown to be just that. Its pretty clear that anti-vaxxer arguments don't have any substance when something ridiculous is posted like housley4Prez did and he provides a link that is shown in multiple posts to not support his position at all. Its valuable to read because when you run into one of your friends and he surprises you with some of these misinformed views its all the easier to clearly articulate why they are being idiots.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:51 PM   #1299
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Canucks too now.
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Todd was apparently in my section. LOL. Good riddance Todd. Oh nvm, franchise folded. Thanks Todd.
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