08-23-2021, 05:35 PM
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#1261
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Maybe because
- Rapidly reproducing organisms like viruses mutate. The more they mutate, the less effective vaccines become. There's a reason there's an annual flu vaccine, and that's because influenza has new dominant strains every year. The only way to reduce these mutations is to actually stop the spread of the virus. Getting vaccinated, and keeping up with whatever new shots are itroduced is the best way to get ahead of the issue.
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I have a feeling COVID is going to be like this as well. Regular vaccines to protect against yearly strains and waves. I think it's just part of diseases now and we have to live with it, just like we do with the flu. And of course, all the ant-vaxxers are going to feel unduly smart as if it proves anything.
On a side note, I would much rather get a few jabs and be good for a while than to have to get test after test constantly. A few jabs is less uncomfortable than multiple tests.
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08-23-2021, 05:36 PM
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#1262
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by shawnjohn
This is exactly my point.
Who the hell cares if you're vaxxed OR not. Either way you're good, right?!
I don't get pissy if someone who's vaxxed says I got the vax. Great good for you pal you're an allstar, grab your photo with the vax sign, post to FB and move the hell on and shut up.
If someone doesn't get vaxxed it should be of zero concern to anyone else.
People who are vaxxed on this board seem to think they're saving the world, trust me you're not...
If your immune system can't handle a flames game then don't go. And please don't cry if someone next to you doesn't have a vax, remember you have one so you're safe...
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Actually you will be the one not going.
Cool crusade though
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08-23-2021, 05:40 PM
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#1263
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Originally Posted by Housley4Prez
Oh come the ###### on. Get over yourself.
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No, you come the #### on. Your ignorance and selfishness is causing direct harm to society. My cousin is immuno-compromised and cannot get the vaccine, so the more idiots like you there are around who refuse to get it the higher the chance he gets Covid and dies. You take the douchbaggary to the next level though by trying to convince others not to get immunized by spouting lies and misinformation. You and people like you are the bottom dregs of society at this moment, I hope your feeling of smug superiority is worth the damage you're causing
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08-23-2021, 05:40 PM
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#1264
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Paraguay
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Originally Posted by DionTheDman
Do you not realize that every opportunity the virus has to spread unchecked is another opportunity for it to mutate? Hence all the variants we have. You ignorant, selfish ####er.
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But YOU can still spread it! In fact, because all the jab does is reduce your symptoms and not prevent you from getting it, you're all the more of a risk for getting people sick. The virus doesn't mutate because I merely exist. It mutates because the vaccine isn't 100% effective. In fact, its efficacy drops over time, so get ready for endless boosters for the rest of your life.
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08-23-2021, 05:41 PM
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#1265
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Paraguay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
No, you come the #### on. Your ignorance and selfishness is causing direct harm to society. My cousin is immuno-compromised and cannot get the vaccine, so the more idiots like you there are around who refuse to get it the higher the chance he gets Covid and dies. You take the douchbaggary to the next level though by trying to convince others not to get immunized by spouting lies and misinformation. You and people like you are the bottom dregs of society at this moment, I hope your feeling of smug superiority is worth the damage you're causing
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Tell me how you really feel. Would you like to go one step further in the dehumanization of those whom you don't agree with?
Has anyone here cheered or laughed at the death of anyone in the news who reportedly died after refusing the jab?
Give me a show of hands.
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08-23-2021, 05:42 PM
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#1266
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Oh grow up people. Ignore his crap.
But to lose respect, be disappointed, and can’t believe what you are reading?
It’s one guy. Stop being snowflakes.
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People are threatening to leave CP forever because of this guy lol
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08-23-2021, 05:43 PM
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#1267
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Housley4Prez
Why is it that if YOU have your jab, and are fully vaccinated, MY not having it is putting you at risk? Isn't it me who should be worried? Why so much fear of secret unvaxxed great unwashed types in the Dome that has you guys so afraid to go unless you get a sweeping ban to validate the decision that YOU made? If the thing works, shouldn't it not matter?
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You and other unvaccinated are the breeding pool for the virus and any future mutations. You're the lot that locks up hospital beds when you do inevitably contract it.
Why don't you just get a stupid little needle in your stupid fat arm then it doesn't matter, you don't have to justify anything or debate the logic of any of this and you can do anything you want?
Your next steps seem pretty obvious. Just get it done.
..Doofus.
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08-23-2021, 05:44 PM
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#1268
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Housley4Prez
Those VAERS reports must be filed without fraud, otherwise it's a heavy penalty imposed if caught. Must be those pesky Russians again, eh?
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This is not true. There is no mechanism for identifying a false report to VAERS. VAERS actively encourages reports from anyone and everyone:
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Who can report to VAERS
CDC and FDA encourage anyone who experiences (or is made aware) of an adverse event after vaccination to report it to VAERS, even if they are not sure the vaccine caused the problem:
Patients
Parents/family member
Caregivers
Those who administer vaccines
Healthcare providers
Vaccine manufacturers
VAERS will only reach out to the reporting individual for additional information if “essential fields” of the VAERS form are not filled out. VAERS will not contact the reporting individual by phone for follow-up.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/en...ortingaes.html
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VAERS is a valuable data set for someone who actually knows how to work with data. If you can program in R, you could do some pretty cool stuff with the data.
The way you're using it is more-or-less the same thing as pointing to a reddit thread as evidence.
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08-23-2021, 05:45 PM
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#1269
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar
People are threatening to leave CP forever because of this guy lol
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More importantly why Phil Housley for president?
Maybe Phil Mickelsen? Phil Simms? Phil’s Pancake House?
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08-23-2021, 05:46 PM
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#1270
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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I honestly can't tell if this is trolling or legit stupidity, God I hope it's trolling.
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08-23-2021, 05:46 PM
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#1271
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Uncle Chester
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Oh grow up people. Ignore his crap.
But to lose respect, be disappointed, and can’t believe what you are reading?
It’s one guy. Stop being snowflakes.
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Are you talking about Fleury?
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08-23-2021, 05:47 PM
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#1272
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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I haven’t seen CP this worked up for a while.
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08-23-2021, 05:48 PM
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#1273
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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This thread has been legendary for identifying stupid people. No reason to leave CP though. Like Oiler and Canuck fans come Easter, the Pro-viruses of this thread will probably be gone.
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08-23-2021, 05:48 PM
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#1274
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Franchise Player
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It’s blatantly clear we’re going to need trusted, verifiable proof of vaccination to do all sorts of things, access businesses, employment, events, travel. Our provincial government seems on an ideological crusade against vaccine passports. We’re going to to need to pressure them.
I hope at minimum the federal program will be the standard, and individually we’ll be able to opt in even without provincial cooperation. We own our health records.
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08-23-2021, 05:48 PM
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#1275
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Nm
Last edited by Ragnar; 08-23-2021 at 09:29 PM.
Reason: adressed later
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08-23-2021, 05:50 PM
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#1276
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ricci's Ugly
Exp:  
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As a vaccinated fan who fully plans on seeing flames games this year, I had no clue we had this many epidemiologists here on CP.
#blessed
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08-23-2021, 05:51 PM
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#1277
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Housley4Prez
But YOU can still spread it! In fact, because all the jab does is reduce your symptoms and not prevent you from getting it, you're all the more of a risk for getting people sick. The virus doesn't mutate because I merely exist. It mutates because the vaccine isn't 100% effective. In fact, its efficacy drops over time, so get ready for endless boosters for the rest of your life.
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Yes you can still spread it - but the vaccines reduce the risk of that happening.
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08-23-2021, 05:51 PM
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#1278
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Theo will always be #14, that was disrespectful on your part! Theo is a person with views and opinions you may not like but he's still Theo.
Also this forum is no different than any other cross section of society were people disagree on things like covid.
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08-23-2021, 05:54 PM
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#1279
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
I'm not asking the mods to fact check every little post and thing, but this loser is purposefully misinforming, and I kinda feel like they have a duty to prevent this. I mean, come on, we have a ####ing swear filter around here, yet civilization harming lies go unchecked? You know there are some reading this thread who are nodding along, buying into this garbage, just as Housley4Prez has? Stop the ####ing rot.
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Still think you're missing the point.
It's not misinformation because you say it is. Someone would have to prove that it is in fact misinformation which would get exhausting.
People have posted well over a dozen links in the last hour.
Should I read all of them and make a call? No thanks!
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08-23-2021, 05:58 PM
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#1280
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot25
I can't believe this, and have lost a lot of respect for this site today. Sorry but the defense of not doing anything makes it even worse. Just my 2 cents but plain as day in this thread.
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I haven't defended anything.
I'm pointing to the rabbit hole this creates ... even went out of my way to say the moderators may actually ban the guy.
I'm not a moderator. Never have been.
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