[News] Upd: Canadian NHL Teams to require proof of vaccination to attend any arena events

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Cheers to my fellow lower-rung holdouts in this two-tier society. Judging by all the hatred of those cheering this on, I can safely say that what was left of my fandom of Flames hockey will now die quietly and peacefully. On the bright side, I can always remember the 2004 run, and the 1989 win.

Here's the thing... I'm NEVER going to get that shot. See you all in 2023, when the safety data trials finally get released.

I doubt you'll be back to gloat about the aforementioned safety trials. You also won't be back to admit you were conned about the vaccines.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Cheers to my fellow lower-rung holdouts in this two-tier society. Judging by all the hatred of those cheering this on, I can safely say that what was left of my fandom of Flames hockey will now die quietly and peacefully. On the bright side, I can always remember the 2004 run, and the 1989 win.

Here's the thing... I'm NEVER going to get that shot. See you all in 2023, when the safety data trials finally get released.

Of course you're a Housley fan. It shows how poor your judgement is.

Also, LOL! You're going to be waiting a looooooooong time for that "safety data".

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

Why do the lower-rung holdouts always have to announce their departure as if any of us high-rung science-lovers care?

I love science too, my brother. Several of my clients are vaccine developers. Most pro-jab types can't get very far into a debate without spewing headlines and have done very little to no research of their own.

But enjoy the smugness for now. Israel has already given us a spoiler warning of what's coming up next.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Yes, missing the Stamps game is equivalent to 6 million Jews being exterminated. Any other dumb false equivalencies you want to share?

Maybe it was satire

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

I love science too, my brother. Several of my clients are vaccine developers. Most pro-jab types can't get very far into a debate without spewing headlines and have done very little to no research of their own.

But enjoy the smugness for now. Israel has already given us a spoiler warning of what's coming up next.

Booster shots that are effective and continue to lower risk in the face of variants?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...sk-2021-08-22/

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

Maybe it was satire

They aren't the first person to make the comparison. They all watch the same tripe and repeat the same dialogue tree.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Of course you're a Housley fan. It shows how poor your judgement is.

Also, LOL! You're going to be waiting a looooooooong time for that "safety data".

No, I'm going to be waiting until 2023... which is when the Pfizer safety data trials end. They won't be worth much, given the fact that the approval today was based off of the 44,000 in the previous trials, of which 22,000 were given a placebo and have since been told and given the real deal.

Must be bliss to just accept that 6 months is now considered "long term" data, when before, anything under 36 months was considered near term.

No, but in all seriousness, enjoy those hockey games. With all of us unjabbed not in attendance, you won't be able to continue blaming us for all those breakthrough variants you're generating and passing around.

Enjoy the ride!

[TheScorpion]

Theo chimes in:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1429923415272525826

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Booster shots that are effective and continue to lower risk in the face of variants?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...sk-2021-08-22/

Endless booster shots every few months? Yeah, I knew about those back in January.

You'll know when you need one, because eventually that's how they'll validate your vaccination status, with endless rapid efficacy testing outside of venues. One of my clients in the UK is already rolling this out through a NHS trial contract.

What a fun world to look forward to for our kids!

At least you'll have that hockey team to waste 3 hours a night, three nights a week on, instead of reading something to learn about topics you weren't familiar with before... or take up a productive hobby.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

They aren't the first person to make the comparison. They all watch the same tripe and repeat the same dialogue tree.

Oh I've seen the Hitler and Nazi references and think they are dumb, I took it as not related and satire. I'm also skimming the thread and not really reading all the posts so what do I know.

[sekimet]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

No, I'm going to be waiting until 2023... which is when the Pfizer safety data trials end. They won't be worth much, given the fact that the approval today was based off of the 44,000 in the previous trials, of which 22,000 were given a placebo and have since been told and given the real deal.

Must be bliss to just accept that 6 months is now considered "long term" data, when before, anything under 36 months was considered near term.

No, but in all seriousness, enjoy those hockey games. With all of us unjabbed not in attendance, you won't be able to continue blaming us for all those breakthrough variants you're generating and passing around.

Enjoy the ride!

Can you explain to me what about mRNA vaccines have you so afraid? What aspect of the vaccine do you think is unsafe? Is it the mRNA? Is it something else? Surely you must have some knowledge about how mRNA works being so steadfast that they will be deemed unsafe.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The FDA just gave Pzifer full approval. So that argument is gone (to be replaced by “they rushed the approval”).

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

No, I'm going to be waiting until 2023... which is when the Pfizer safety data trials end. They won't be worth much, given the fact that the approval today was based off of the 44,000 in the previous trials, of which 22,000 were given a placebo and have since been told and given the real deal.

Must be bliss to just accept that 6 months is now considered "long term" data, when before, anything under 36 months was considered near term.

No, but in all seriousness, enjoy those hockey games. With all of us unjabbed not in attendance, you won't be able to continue blaming us for all those breakthrough variants you're generating and passing around.

Enjoy the ride!

Took longer than I thought.

[Manhattanboy]

I know what you’re thinking. Did he get three vaccines or only two?

Well do ya feel lucky punk??!! Well, do ya??!!

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I doubt you'll be back to gloat about the aforementioned safety trials. You also won't be back to admit you were conned about the vaccines.

Conned by whom, my friend? Are you going to accuse me of getting all my information from Facebook or Instagram?

What does Dr. Robert W. Malone have to gain from warning people about the mRNA technology he was instrumental in inventing?

A brand new injection, never before approved in the history of pharmaceuticals, whipped up within hours, and rolled out with lightning speed. It doesn't prevent you from getting the disease. It doesn't prevent you from transmitting the disease. A disease with a survival rate of over 99.5%, and y'all are high fiving like we just won a world war.

We have ZERO long term data. We don't have any idea of the long-term effects.

I work in marketing for clients in this field, and have for over a decade. I've seen $9 stocks plummet to $0.09 overnight with just a dozen adverse effects reported. We're currently witnessing history, that's for sure.

They keep saying it's safe and effective. If that were the case, then why are there tens of thousands of deaths associated with it, and hundreds of thousands of serious adverse effects? We have no clue about the long term effects of this thing on our immune system, nor our reproductive system.

Very talented and serious experts in the applicable sciences are speaking out about this, but they keep getting silenced. And all of you are just happy those experts can't get into a hockey game now. Bravo.

Bigger fish to fry. Enjoy the fall/winter lockdowns. Probably a good idea to go ahead and exchange Christmas gifts now.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Theo chimes in:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1429923415272525826

I guess the number 14 is back in circulation.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I guess the number 14 is back in circulation.

Yikes ... I think both of you (Scorp too) took this too far.

Fleury stands for a lot of things I don't believe in, but he's certainly allowed to not choose to get vaccinated and because of that not able to go to hockey games.

There's nothing controversial in that other than a personal choice that he's allowed to make.

[Jiri Hrdina]

They won’t need to retire his number because no one will want to be associated with that twit

[Pellanor]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Reuters is my go to for straight fact reporting.

People need to stop with the "it's all biased, so you can't trust anything" bull####. It's a cop out. There's plenty of quality news sources, just don't choose the ones that shout crazy editorials at you and you'll be fine.

Bias is insidious how it sneaks in everywhere. Lots of good sources will make an effort to correct for their bias, but even then its hard to entirely avoid. of course that doesn't mean you can't get good news. As you and others have mentioned, those that focus on reporting facts rather than interpreting and giving opinion on them is a great start. You can also check with independent sources to see what bias there is to your news, so you are at least aware of it.

Ad Fontes publishes an interesting media bias chart.

Spoiler!

They've got an interactive version on their site which has more details, along with a white paper that shows their methodology. Of course even they can't escape bias in their reporting. They use the American Democratic / Republican split to determine what counts as left or right leaning. If you live elsewhere in the world you might find what you consider left or right isn't really represented in their findings.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by sekimet

Can you explain to me what about mRNA vaccines have you so afraid? What aspect of the vaccine do you think is unsafe? Is it the mRNA? Is it something else? Surely you must have some knowledge about how mRNA works being so steadfast that they will be deemed unsafe.

Antibody Dependant Enhancement (ADE) is an issue with mRNA. Listen to the inventor of the technology himself, Dr. Robert W. Malone. They sure canceled him quickly after he spoke to Dr Bret Weinstein about the topic.

But it's not the mRNA itself that's the issue, but the S-spike proteins that the mRNA is designed to recreate. We know from the work of Dr. Byram Bridle through obtained autopsy data from Japan that the spike proteins don't stay put in the arm like we were told they would, but instead travel throughout the entire body, often congregating in larger numbers around the genital regions.

We've witnessed 4/5ths of women in the first trimester suffering miscarriages. We've witnessed youths (mostly male) suffering from myocarditis. We've witnessed several people with other major side effects.

But... I mean, pocket dawgs and malts, they're worth the risk for, right guys?

Maybe if we trade for Eichel I'll reconsider my values and get the jab. /s

[Knut]