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Old 08-13-2021, 11:55 AM   #581
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I could care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
You could care less? Or you couldn't care less?
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I could care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
Unless you live on a self sustaining farm, growing all of your own food and beverage then the government is controlling what you should and shouldn’t put in your body. Ever taken an Advil?
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Old 08-13-2021, 11:59 AM   #583
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Again, you can do whatever you want. You just don't get to participate with the rest of us.

Have fun with your choices, nobody cares.

This is the typical response from people like you. Do whatever you want, but we're gonna penalize you for NOT doing what WE want you to do. If you don't see a problem with this, you're the problem.
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I could care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
No one is telling you what to do.They are saying if you don’t do this you can’t do this. Two completely different things
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I could care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
It is not about you!! These anti-vaxxers are the most narcissictic self-absorbed people out there. You get the shot to prevent the spread to those that can not be protected. You take the jab for the team, not yourself. You are right that you are likely fine, but does your immune system prevent it from spreading to others... no!. So Man up and get the jab to protect others.
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It’s right on the cdc website.
Of course their first line is that they are safe and effective but all the numbers are there. They put them in cases per million so it doesn’t look as bad but not hard to find how many million vaccines administered and times it by that number. Then compare that number to the adverse reactions to other vaccines over the past 20 years. There are huge numbers of people who have had adverse reactions.
Again if anyone feels the way they do I support them either way, but I don’t think people should be segregated if the risk feels higher than the reward for them and society.
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Post the link to your source on the website like buddy posted his.
Yeah bro can ya, you now answer this please.

I said please to appease your concerns regarding politeness.
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I could care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
a. Define "beating COVID". Long COVID isn't even fully known yet but even now it doesn't look good.

b. Healthy living helps with everything, but people still take medicine when they get sick and still get immunized for plenty of things.

c. The fact you will probably live from COVID doesn't give you the right to infect others, which is reduced when you are vaxxed (and moreso when they are too).

d. No one is forcing a vaccine on anyone. They are saying unvaxxed people aren't allowed in their building. That's just a consequence.

e. But even if the government were making a vaccine mandate, it's been held that it has that right. Jacobsen v. Massachusets; Zucht v. King; etc.

f. It's "couldn't care less" and "Karens".

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This is the typical response from people like you. Do whatever you want, but we're gonna penalize you for NOT doing what WE want you to do. If you don't see a problem with this, you're the problem.
Nah that isn't it dawg, you are actively making a choice to the detriment of everyone around you and yet you still feel entitled to participate in activities without taking the necessary precautions for both yourself and others.

You're the problem.
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This is the typical response from people like you. Do whatever you want, but we're gonna penalize you for NOT doing what WE want you to do. If you don't see a problem with this, you're the problem.
That's how society works. I can do whatever I want, but there are penalties for doing some of those things. I can still do them though. I can drink and drive, I can piss on the sidewalk, I park on a lawn, I can smoke cigarettes indoors. But, you know... stuff has consequences.

Why are you so special that none of your decisions should come with any consequences?
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You could care less? Or you couldn't care less?
If you read the full comment you'd understand that I meant to say couldn't. I'll fix it for you tho.
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If the choice is to have a job or not have a job by being vaccinated. I'm getting the vaccination. No way around it IMO.

If it.means I can freely travel abroad to see and experience things I may never see or experience without a vaccination (which BTW has been a long standing practice well before covid) , I'm getting the vaccination.

Anyone is free to choose if they get vaccinated or not. Just as employers are free to choose to not hire someone not meeting requirements of employment. Or a country is free to deny entry to anyone who could harm their population.

Resist if you want. Life is short and there's bigger fish to fry.
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I couldn't care less about these "Karen's" who are pissed, and don't respect people who tell others what to do with their body. The media, government, and vaxed all forget to realize that our bodies have an immune system which has over a 99% chance of beating Covid without any treatment. It's completely natural and works wonders. I believe in eating well, exercising, and taking vitamins to boost my immune system. These are the things rarely talked about from the media, government, or people who've gotten the jab, yet it's the most important thing to do. Instead, all we hear is put a mask on, stay home, get the jab. In the end, we all have "one" body in our lifetime and no one has the right to tell others what they should and shouldn't put in their bodies.
The difference between you and I is when I take the vaccine, I’m not thinking about my 99% odds. I’m thinking about the immunocompromised, my 88 year old grandmother and her friends, those in long term care facilities, and those who actually need to go to a hospital that’s not inundated by morons infected with a preventable disease.

You’re just thinking about your own health makeup. Who’s the Karen now?
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Terminator hitting the nail on the head. Don't be a smuck



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The difference between you and I is when I take the vaccine, I’m not thinking about my 99% odds. I’m thinking about the immunocompromised, my 88 year old grandmother and her friends, those in long term care facilities, and those who actually need to go to a hospital that’s not inundated by morons infected with a preventable disease.

You’re just thinking about your own health makeup. Who’s the Karen now?
Ya when I got the shot I thought about my friends immunocompromised 4 year old daughter with spina bifida and how if everyone got the shot the world would be a safer place for her. I never thought about FireItUp’s personal freedom and liberty though, nor anyone else who thinks like him.
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I would wager that over time there will be more bans on unvaccinated without some sort of medical pardon.

The longer this drags on while vaccines are in supply and available, the more companies, institutions and governments will jump on that train. And it will be applauded.

Do it now while things are relatively relaxed, because things are just going to get ####ier for the holdouts. You'll be the only ones experiencing restrictions in due time, particularly if a significant wave happens and 90+% of the hospitalized don't have the needle. But you have every opportunity to both grant yourself a guarantee of those freedoms and to be a good human being to your neighbours by just going and getting it done now. It's so easy, and your friends, family, and we will respect you more for it.

Want to see the beach? Get it done.
Want to see your team? Get it done.
Want to never quarantine to do anything ever again? Get it done.
Want to never touch a mask again? Get it done.
Want us to shut up? Get it done.
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The difference between you and I is when I take the vaccine, I’m not thinking about my 99% odds. I’m thinking about the immunocompromised, my 88 year old grandmother and her friends, those in long term care facilities, and those who actually need to go to a hospital that’s not inundated by morons infected with a preventable disease.

You’re just thinking about your own health makeup. Who’s the Karen now?
You can still catch Covid and spread it if you're vaccinated.
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That's how society works. I can do whatever I want, but there are penalties for doing some of those things. I can still do them though. I can drink and drive, I can piss on the sidewalk, I park on a lawn, I can smoke cigarettes indoors. But, you know... stuff has consequences.

Why are you so special that none of your decisions should come with any consequences?
Tell that to a friend of mine that got the jab and died two days later. She was single mother who now has a daughter without a mother.
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It is not about you!! These anti-vaxxers are the most narcissictic self-absorbed people out there. You get the shot to prevent the spread to those that can not be protected. You take the jab for the team, not yourself. You are right that you are likely fine, but does your immune system prevent it from spreading to others... no!. So Man up and get the jab to protect others.
The vaccine doesn't prevent infection or spread though. Currently it appears that the vaccine is highly effective at preventing serious outcomes but infection and spread in vaccinated people is still possible. Peak viral load in infected people seems to be the same regardless of whether someone is vaccinated or not but vaccinated people are infectious/spreading for a shorter period of time.
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Tell that to a friend of mine that got the jab and died two days later. She was single mother who now has a daughter without a mother.

Like any vaccine, it takes about 14 days for it to take effect, so while tragic, isn't a good example.
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