[News] Upd: Canadian NHL Teams to require proof of vaccination to attend any arena events

[calf]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

This is too funny.... I suggest people here go back and think about all the privacy laws that were passed... somehow someones medical history is OK when asking about this virus and their vaccination status (and having it in a passport is still asking and showing it). Now people here want to segregate society again, like we did in the USA before 1860 or between 1920 and 1965... or like Nazi Germany did in 1930 to 1945. It's funny because in Germany, the SS asked people to view their papers - is that what you want, to have to show papers again - to prove to someone your status. Count me OUT!


Now.... Can I ask you if you got your erectile dysfunction prescription filed, or when is you menstrual period, or if you're taking your schizophrenia medication too... because we are on a slippery slope here - and before you say that nonsensical, two years ago asking someone for a vaccination passport would be considered nonsensical, and if someone is off their schizophrenia medication, the could be dangerous - where do you draw the line.


What about people who can't take the vaccination under doctors orders. And if the vaccination works.... why do I (or you) care if someone has been vaccinated as long as I (you) have been - you can't have it all ways.... either the vaccines work and you shouldn't care, or they don't. The problem is the efficacy of the vaccines have been widely overstated and now we're just coming to that realization - and no matter if you believe it or not (I simply don't care) - facts are facts and you can't change that. Why are they talking about a third booster now?



The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting see in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.


The problems: If you happen to have COVID at the time of you vaccination - your body now has double (and by double I mean the two added together) the spike proteins, the ones created by the virus and the others created at the vaccination site or areas it's spread to (which was not suppose to happen - but does)... this can be an issue especially in younger people with highly active immune systems (I thankfully didn't have this issue).... then, add the second shot to that... I hope you get the point.


My point: Vaccine's are a choice.... since I've been vaccinated, why would I care about someone else if I believe they work, I'm immune. News flash: COVID is here to stay like the flu or common cold... we better get use to it, and most people are going to catch it now or in the future, you can't STOPPED IT no more then you can't stop getting the cold or flu, you may not want it, I know I don't, but there will be too many strains for the vaccines to catch. COVID has also been around for years - there are flu's (and colds) that are caused by COVID virus already - SARS was a COVID virus.

I'm pretty sure every thing you asked about has been answered a few times. But for the bolded, ED, mensural cycles and schizophrenia aren't contagious, nor a public health threat, so it's invalid.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

This is too funny.... I suggest people here go back and think about all the privacy laws that were passed... somehow someones medical history is OK when asking about this virus and their vaccination status (and having it in a passport is still asking and showing it). Now people here want to segregate society again, like we did in the USA before 1860 or between 1920 and 1965... or like Nazi Germany did in 1930 to 1945. It's funny because in Germany, the SS asked people to view their papers - is that what you want, to have to show papers again - to prove to someone your status. Count me OUT!


Now.... Can I ask you if you got your erectile dysfunction prescription filed, or when is you menstrual period, or if you're taking your schizophrenia medication too... because we are on a slippery slope here - and before you say that nonsensical, two years ago asking someone for a vaccination passport would be considered nonsensical, and if someone is off their schizophrenia medication, the could be dangerous - where do you draw the line.


What about people who can't take the vaccination under doctors orders. And if the vaccination works.... why do I (or you) care if someone has been vaccinated as long as I (you) have been - you can't have it all ways.... either the vaccines work and you shouldn't care, or they don't. The problem is the efficacy of the vaccines have been widely overstated and now we're just coming to that realization - and no matter if you believe it or not (I simply don't care) - facts are facts and you can't change that. Why are they talking about a third booster now?



The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting seen in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.


The problems: If you happen to have COVID at the time of you vaccination - your body now has double (and by double I mean the two added together) the spike proteins, the ones created by the virus and the others created at the vaccination site or areas it's spread to (which was not suppose to happen - but does)... this can be an issue especially in younger people with highly active immune systems (I thankfully didn't have this issue).... then, add the second shot to that... I hope you get the point.


My point: Vaccine's are a choice.... since I've been vaccinated, why would I care about someone else if I believe they work, I'm immune. News flash: COVID is here to stay like the flu or common cold... we better get use to it, and most people are going to catch it now or in the future, you can't STOP IT no more then you can't stop getting the cold or flu, you may not want it, I know I don't, but there will be too many strains for the vaccines to catch. COVID has also been around for years - there are flu's (and colds) that are caused by COVID virus already - SARS was a COVID virus.

Again for the second time in 2 days your not being prosecuted like the jews.

Just so much misinformation in one post to top of But Nazis are coming back!

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Now people here want to segregate society again, like we did in the USA before 1860 or between 1920 and 1965... or like Nazi Germany did in 1930 to 1945. It's funny because in Germany, the SS asked people to view their papers - is that what you want, to have to show papers again - to prove to someone your status. Count me OUT!

Just this week I was asked to show proof that I was legally allowed to drive and purchase alcohol...smh slippery slope indeed. Next they will assign children numbers at birth in order to receive health care.

Goebbels is throwing a party in Argentina reading about what were doing.

[heep223]

If you’re a healthy person who chooses not to get vaccinated, you’re an idiot and you should be treated as such. I have no issue with you being excluded from fun times.

That is all.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting seen in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.

Do you have a source for any of this Dr. JackisBack?? Because if not, I'd like to apply for you to become my family doctor. You obviously know more than any other licensed Dr out there!

Also...how could the mRNA method be new and also trialed previously?

Where are you getting this info that mRNA causes blood clots??

Why are you spreading such misinformation so willingly? Jesus Christ my man! You have read too much misinformation that you believe is 100% true. Please snap out of it, for your own good.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting seen in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.

The problems: If you happen to have COVID at the time of you vaccination - your body now has double (and by double I mean the two added together) the spike proteins, the ones created by the virus and the others created at the vaccination site or areas it's spread to (which was not suppose to happen - but does)... this can be an issue especially in younger people with highly active immune systems (I thankfully didn't have this issue).... then, add the second shot to that... I hope you get the point.

My point: Vaccine's are a choice.... since I've been vaccinated, why would I care about someone else if I believe they work, I'm immune. News flash: COVID is here to stay like the flu or common cold... we better get use to it, and most people are going to catch it now or in the future, you can't STOP IT no more then you can't stop getting the cold or flu, you may not want it, I know I don't, but there will be too many strains for the vaccines to catch. COVID has also been around for years - there are flu's (and colds) that are caused by COVID virus already - SARS was a COVID virus.

Stop pretending like you know anything about vaccines or immunology, it's quite obvious you're just reciting antivax BS that you've read in various places. The fact that you think that the flu can be caused by a "COVID virus" really says it all.

[Looch City]

Man I have never read that much misinformation is one giant post before. It's like worth it for the mods to tag it at the beginning "FALSE INFORMATION" in bold.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

This is too funny.... I suggest people here go back and think about all the privacy laws that were passed... somehow someones medical history is OK when asking about this virus and their vaccination status (and having it in a passport is still asking and showing it). Now people here want to segregate society again, like we did in the USA before 1860 or between 1920 and 1965... or like Nazi Germany did in 1930 to 1945. It's funny because in Germany, the SS asked people to view their papers - is that what you want, to have to show papers again - to prove to someone your status. Count me OUT!


Now.... Can I ask you if you got your erectile dysfunction prescription filed, or when is you menstrual period, or if you're taking your schizophrenia medication too... because we are on a slippery slope here - and before you say that nonsensical, two years ago asking someone for a vaccination passport would be considered nonsensical, and if someone is off their schizophrenia medication, the could be dangerous - where do you draw the line.


What about people who can't take the vaccination under doctors orders. And if the vaccination works.... why do I (or you) care if someone has been vaccinated as long as I (you) have been - you can't have it all ways.... either the vaccines work and you shouldn't care, or they don't. The problem is the efficacy of the vaccines have been widely overstated and now we're just coming to that realization - and no matter if you believe it or not (I simply don't care) - facts are facts and you can't change that. Why are they talking about a third booster now?



The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting seen in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.


The problems: If you happen to have COVID at the time of you vaccination - your body now has double (and by double I mean the two added together) the spike proteins, the ones created by the virus and the others created at the vaccination site or areas it's spread to (which was not suppose to happen - but does)... this can be an issue especially in younger people with highly active immune systems (I thankfully didn't have this issue).... then, add the second shot to that... I hope you get the point.


My point: Vaccine's are a choice.... since I've been vaccinated, why would I care about someone else if I believe they work, I'm immune. News flash: COVID is here to stay like the flu or common cold... we better get use to it, and most people are going to catch it now or in the future, you can't STOP IT no more then you can't stop getting the cold or flu, you may not want it, I know I don't, but there will be too many strains for the vaccines to catch. COVID has also been around for years - there are flu's (and colds) that are caused by COVID virus already - SARS was a COVID virus.

Wow.

Jack IS back.

Letting people safely congregating away from conspiracy theorists antivaxxers is just like racist segregation.

Wow.

The non-stop freight train of ignorance is impressive.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Do you have a source for any of this Dr. JackisBack?? Because if not, I'd like to apply for you to become my family doctor. You obviously know more than any other licensed Dr out there!

Also...how could the mRNA method be new and also trialed previously?

Where are you getting this info that mRNA causes blood clots??

Why are you spreading such misinformation so willingly? Jesus Christ my man! You have read too much misinformation that you believe is 100% true. Please snap out of it, for your own good.

it's funny because the vaccine commonly associated with the (very rare) blood clots is AstraZeneca, which is the good old fashioned viral vector type that he's ok with. if you can't even get the vaccine brands sorted out in your fake science diatribe, then you're gonna have a bad time.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Use some reiki or maybe a nice topical ointment on that COVID.

I'm sure injection of bleach, Lysol, and UV would help the unvaccinated anti-vaxxers

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

It's currently against the law too... privacy laws anyone. Where are you going to draw the line? Where is someone else going to draw the line? What if you have a cold, I don't want you sitting next to me at the hockey game if you're coughing... if you start to cough, should security quickly escort you out of the building.

If you start to spread non factual information should security quickly escort you out of the building? maybe

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by MonaTone

Just this week I was asked to show proof that I was legally allowed to drive and purchase alcohol...smh slippery slope indeed. Next they will assign children numbers at birth in order to receive health care.

Goebbels is throwing a party in Argentina reading about what were doing.

I'm in my 30s 6'3 with a massive beard and getting grey hairs and I still get asked for at the liquor store .

Also when I hired for a job they have the nerve to ask me for my sin to see if I legally can work. The damn nerve ! Prosecution at the finest!

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Do you have a source for any of this Dr. JackisBack?? Because if not, I'd like to apply for you to become my family doctor. You obviously know more than any other licensed Dr out there!

Also...how could the mRNA method be new and also trialed previously?

Where are you getting this info that mRNA causes blood clots??

Why are you spreading such misinformation so willingly? Jesus Christ my man! You have read too much misinformation that you believe is 100% true. Please snap out of it, for your own good.

I'm correlating the COVID spread with the conspiracy channels on the web:
2-Chan, 4-Chan, 8-Chan, 16-Chan, 32-Chan, 64-Chan, 128-Chan...

The conspiracies of COVID and vaccines gets deeper and deeper for those who like the different conspiracy channels!

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Again for the second time in 2 days your not being prosecuted like the jews.

First off.... you assume that I haven't been vaccinated because I'm arguing the other side.... you should check your assumptions... and segregating people is still segregation no matter how you justify it - it's WRONG.



Do you really think Nazi Germany was good one moment and bad the next... or was it a gradually process where the Germany government and people justified their reasoning each step down the slippery slope.


You have to judge people in the time when they lived.... for example: people actually believed that by cross breeding with some undesirable race, that you would dummy down your (or the human) race.... it's laughable now. What is laughable is that we all think that this poisonous line of thinking wouldn't poison my way of thinking, I'm too good for that, but it was rare for people to stand up against the crowd and I doubt many here including me would be so brave (you don't truly know).



So I'm standing up... I'm vaccinated.... but I think it's WRONG to segregate those that haven't been. They don't effect my decision at all.... if I believe the vaccinations work... than it doesn't matter if the person next to me hasn't been... for I'm immune, they don't effect me. If I believe they don't work... then it doesn't matter if they've been vaccinated or not.... it doesn't matter at all. What a dumb argument.... think about it.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

it's funny because the vaccine commonly associated with the (very rare) blood clots is AstraZeneca, which is the good old fashioned viral vector type that he's ok with. if you can't even get the vaccine brands sorted out in your fake science diatribe, then you're gonna have a bad time.

Person 1:I won't feel safe unless we go back to the way things were for vaccines!....

Person 2: The old vaccine styles are the ones that could kill you...

Person 1 : Stop spouting your rhetoric t
You Nazi oppressor

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

First off.... you assume that I haven't been vaccinated because I'm arguing the other side.... you should check your assumptions... and segregating people is still segregation no matter how you justify it - it's WRONG.



Do you really think Nazi Germany was good one moment and bad the next... or was it a gradually process where the Germany government and people justified their reasoning each step down the slippery slope.


You have to judge people in the time when they lived.... for example: people actually believed that by cross breeding with some undesirable race, that you would dummy down your (or the human) race.... it's laughable now. What is laughable is that we all think that this poisonous line of thinking wouldn't poison my way of thinking, I'm too good for that, but it was rare for people to stand up against the crowd and I doubt many here including me would be so brave (you don't truly know).



So I'm standing up... I'm vaccinated.... but I think it's WRONG to segregate those that haven't been. They don't effect my decision at all.... if I believe the vaccinations work... than it doesn't matter if the person next to me hasn't been... for I'm immune, they don't effect me. If I believe they don't work... then it doesn't matter if they've been vaccinated or not.... it doesn't matter at all. What a dumb argument.... think about it.

So do you have the clap or not... or gonorrhea... or syphillis...?

[Enoch Root]

In order to be able to continue reading the thread without succumbing to the urge to bang my head violently against a brick wall, I have been reading some of the wilder posts as if this was a Monty Python Silly Posters skit. And it is fantastically entertaining this way!

And I thought 14Roman14 had a stranglehold on the trophy with the 'flu' post, but I must say, JackIsBack has really made a game of it with this latest entry!

[cupofjoe]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

This is too funny.... I suggest people here go back and think about all the privacy laws that were passed... somehow someones medical history is OK when asking about this virus and their vaccination status (and having it in a passport is still asking and showing it). Now people here want to segregate society again, like we did in the USA before 1860 or between 1920 and 1965... or like Nazi Germany did in 1930 to 1945. It's funny because in Germany, the SS asked people to view their papers - is that what you want, to have to show papers again - to prove to someone your status. Count me OUT!


Now.... Can I ask you if you got your erectile dysfunction prescription filed, or when is you menstrual period, or if you're taking your schizophrenia medication too... because we are on a slippery slope here - and before you say that nonsensical, two years ago asking someone for a vaccination passport would be considered nonsensical, and if someone is off their schizophrenia medication, the could be dangerous - where do you draw the line.


What about people who can't take the vaccination under doctors orders. And if the vaccination works.... why do I (or you) care if someone has been vaccinated as long as I (you) have been - you can't have it all ways.... either the vaccines work and you shouldn't care, or they don't. The problem is the efficacy of the vaccines have been widely overstated and now we're just coming to that realization - and no matter if you believe it or not (I simply don't care) - facts are facts and you can't change that. Why are they talking about a third booster now?



The problem is that these COVID vaccinations don't work like other vaccines worked historically. Historically, vaccines were the shells of viruses or weakened viruses that were injected and created the same immune response in the host (you) that the virus did, but were weakened, so your immune system could beat it with little discomfort and you were now immune. The mRNA vaccines are new... a new technology that has largely failed in every trial before this one. The mRNA takes over your own cells functions where it's injected and has those cells produce proteins identical to the ones on the COVID19 virus (the spike proteins in this case - the proteins that create the little spikes on the outside of the virus), your bodies immune system then creates antigens to fight this fake virus infection. It's these spike proteins that create the blood clotting seen in recently vaccinated or COVID effected people.


The problems: If you happen to have COVID at the time of you vaccination - your body now has double (and by double I mean the two added together) the spike proteins, the ones created by the virus and the others created at the vaccination site or areas it's spread to (which was not suppose to happen - but does)... this can be an issue especially in younger people with highly active immune systems (I thankfully didn't have this issue).... then, add the second shot to that... I hope you get the point.


My point: Vaccine's are a choice.... since I've been vaccinated, why would I care about someone else if I believe they work, I'm immune. News flash: COVID is here to stay like the flu or common cold... we better get use to it, and most people are going to catch it now or in the future, you can't STOP IT no more then you can't stop getting the cold or flu, you may not want it, I know I don't, but there will be too many strains for the vaccines to catch. COVID has also been around for years - there are flu's (and colds) that are caused by COVID virus already - SARS was a COVID virus.

'The Facebook/Fox News Force is strong with this one...'

Yoda 2021

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

You have to judge people in the time when they lived.... for example: people actually believed that by cross breeding with some undesirable race, that you would dummy down your (or the human) race.... it's laughable now.

Yes, and we're in the age where at the touch of a button, 99% of the combined knowledge in the history of humanity is available to you. I 100% blame stupid people for believing in moronic conspiracy theories when the correct information is readily available. If you choose to believe in vast, worldwide conspiracy theories, you'll get no sympathy here.

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

So I'm standing up... I'm vaccinated.... but I think it's WRONG to segregate those that haven't been. They don't effect my decision at all.... if I believe the vaccinations work... than it doesn't matter if the person next to me hasn't been... for I'm immune, they don't effect me. If I believe they don't work... then it doesn't matter if they've been vaccinated or not.... it doesn't matter at all. What a dumb argument.... think about it.

They don't affect your decision, but they may very well affect your life. Every day this goes on is another day that we aren't back to normal living our lives the pre-2020 way. You know what's prolonging this? People's idiocy in not getting their f-ing shots! It matters to everyone! Not many things in the history of the world have mattered more.

[Looch City]

It's a pretty unique case to be both vaccinated AND fully into the crazy conspiracy theories/misinformation.

Good on you for the first bit I guess.