07-13-2021, 12:16 PM
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#81
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Draft Pick
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No interest in Parise, but as a depth option would LOVE to have Suter... obviously money/term would have to be correct but if Stone is our current depth plan I like this a lot more.
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07-13-2021, 12:17 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Suter going to CHI would also be a delicious outcome. He can mentor Caleb Jones to be the next Seth Jones.
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07-13-2021, 12:18 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Parise will sign for cheap with the Islanders is my prediction (he was almost dealt there at the deadline)
Suter I have no idea where he goes?
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Montreal paired up with Weber
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07-13-2021, 12:21 PM
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#84
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by stemit14
There has to be something more to this. Bill Guerin has to be able to say he did all this to at least acquire eichel at the end of the day. Smart money has to be on them acquiring him. If they did all this only to re-sign Kaprisov, it will probably be the dumbest buy-out move in NHL history.
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That would be hilariously idiotic. After this season..
Kaprizov (8.5) - Eichel (10) - Zuccarrello (6M)
Fiala (6ish) - EK (5.25M) - Foligno (3.1M)
Hartman (1.7) - xxx - xxx
xxx - xxx - xxx
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Brodin (6) - Spurgeon (7.575)
Soucy (2.75M) - xxx
xxx - xxx
xxx
Talbot (3.66M)
xxx
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12.75M in dead cap (that goes up to 14.75M the following two seasons)
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73.3 Million dollars.. out of a flat cap of 82.5M
That leaves them 9.2M dollars to fill out 11 roster spots.. while sporting laughably poor depth throughout the roster and having no quality prospects on ELC's to fill important holes as a result of the trade.
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07-13-2021, 12:23 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Jeff Carter on his last year.
Skinner and Bobrovsky are the new version.
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Skinner and Bobrosky are just bad contracts where it isn't as back loaded. If they play a couple more years the cap saving are at least there. Both are just bad contracts. Kudos to the agents on those.
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07-13-2021, 12:24 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I wonder if Uncle Gary had good stories about life in Calgary when young Ryan was star-eyed and impressionable?
He was 4 years-old when the Flames won the Cup, so that could have burned some positive thoughts into his brain.
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07-13-2021, 12:26 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I feel like Suter could get a multi year deal with a decent cap hit so he might be looking for best deal.
If he is signing for the minimum then I think he is heading to Tampa or Vegas
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07-13-2021, 12:28 PM
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#88
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#1 Goaltender
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Wild buying out Parise and Suter
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
That would be hilariously idiotic. After this season..
Kaprizov (8.5) - Eichel (10) - Zuccarrello (6M)
Fiala (6ish) - EK (5.25M) - Foligno (3.1M)
Hartman (1.7) - xxx - xxx
xxx - xxx - xxx
xxx
Brodin (6) - Spurgeon (7.575)
Soucy (2.75M) - xxx
xxx - xxx
xxx
Talbot (3.66M)
xxx
+
12.75M in dead cap (that goes up to 14.75M the following two seasons)
=
73.3 Million dollars.. out of a flat cap of 82.5M
That leaves them 9.2M dollars to fill out 11 roster spots.. while sporting laughably poor depth throughout the roster and having no quality prospects on ELC's to fill important holes as a result of the trade.
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Agreed. No idea if that’s what they would give up (too much/too little) for eichel but what else could be the motivation for buying out these guys? There has to be a “win now” move to explain this because these buyouts handcuff them in the very near future.
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07-13-2021, 12:30 PM
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#89
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Wrong thread.
Last edited by Drunk Uncle; 07-13-2021 at 12:46 PM.
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07-13-2021, 12:32 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Agreed. No idea if that’s what they would give up (too much/too little) for eichel but what else could be the motivation for buying out these guys? There has to be a “win now” move to explain this because these buyouts handcuff them in the very near future.
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Expansion draft. They were forced to protect both and on the blueline Suter blocks one of Dumba/Spurgeon/Brodin from being protected
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07-13-2021, 12:35 PM
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#91
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#1 Goaltender
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Wild buying out Parise and Suter
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Expansion draft. They were forced to protect both and on the blueline Suter blocks one of Dumba/Spurgeon/Brodin from being protected
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But why buy out Parise as well? Why not just Suter? Is there a foward that they are worried about losing because of Parise’s protection slot. Also, I would think Parise would have waived his NMC… highly doubtful Seattle would have taken that contract.
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07-13-2021, 12:38 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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This is GM’s well-deserved punishment for signing players to expensive long contracts with NMC/NTC. I wish there was a study report done on the historic percentage of those contracts actually being successful vs. busts.
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07-13-2021, 12:39 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
But why buy out Praise as well? Why not just Suter? Is there a foward that they are worried about losing because of Parise’s protection slot. Also, I would think Parise would have waived his NMC… highly doubtful Seattle would have taken that contract.
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I do believe they have forward protection issues as well. And why would he waive it when he can get bought out and go sign another contract? More money.
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07-13-2021, 02:46 PM
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#94
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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07-13-2021, 02:48 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
This is GM’s well-deserved punishment for signing players to expensive long contracts with NMC/NTC.
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Except it's a different GM being punished than the guy who signed the deals.
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07-13-2021, 02:49 PM
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#96
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Remember when the Wild signed Zach Parise and he was supposed to put them over the top, seems like a long time ago now.
13 years and $98M later, as per Cap friendly if I'm reading that correctly.
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07-13-2021, 02:57 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Damn, if this is true, pretty surprising. For someone who was such an integral part of the organization, would have expected this to atleast be communicated to their side prior to the buy out
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07-13-2021, 03:00 PM
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#98
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macman
Remember when the Wild signed Zach Parise and he was supposed to put them over the top, seems like a long time ago now.
13 years and $98M later, as per Cap friendly if I'm reading that correctly.
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They did turn into a powerhouse team in the regular season for a year or two after those signings. That was it. That was their window with the Koivu, Parise, Suter and Dubnyk core. I imagine they thought they would be a better team for longer with those signings but it has aged terribly.
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07-13-2021, 03:00 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Damn, if this is true, pretty surprising. For someone who was such an integral part of the organization, would have expected this to atleast be communicated to their side prior to the buy out
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A little classless IMO. You would think the organization at the very least would have given him the heads up that they are considering it. The guy has been an absolute workhorse for that organization for nine seasons and they cut him loose just like that without even talking to him.
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07-13-2021, 03:05 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Agreed. Completely classless. Still a very serviceable, albeit maybe slightly overpaid top pairing/second pairing guy. A leader on your team, and community. A cornerstone of your franchise. Doesn’t send a great message to other UFAs who might consider Minnesota as well on top of that. Really puzzling decision.
Buyout decision aside, bare minimum decency to communicate this.
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