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Old 07-12-2021, 01:18 PM   #121
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While Seattle won't do it, it would be hilarious for the Oilers to give up Jones and a third for someone who got claimed weeks later.
Sadly that would be a win for the Oilers being able to dump that cap hit
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:18 PM   #122
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:19 PM   #123
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:20 PM   #124
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It’s bad enough for 1 year but 2 is just priceless

They have cap issues next summer when nurse needs to be resigned
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So, that leaves the Oilers with about $12 million in cap space, needing to sign Yamamoto, a Starting Goalie, A 2,3 and 4 defenseman, and a couple of depth players?
Yamamoto probably will get $3.5M, and I doubt Smith will take less than the $3.75M he got last year.

So even if you call it $7M that leaves the Oilers with $5M. And they want to re-sign Larsson too.

Really they have no money left to make a big addition without money going out.
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Expansion draft isn't really relevant...who are the Oilers worried about losing anyway?
Seriously. I looked at that. I suppose maybe Jones could have been picked, but if they wait on Larsson, they could have protected Jones. After that, Archibald? Kahun? Benson? The pickings are slim...
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:20 PM   #127
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Um. Caleb Jones makes $850k.
Yes, it's not that the Oilers made a trade to pay less money (no matter what the cap impacts are). Keith still makes more than Jones.

This is not like the Lucic / Neal deal, where the Flames organization saved a lot more money than simply the salary cap savings.
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Anti-Oilers sentiment aside, this is one of the most lopsided trades I've seen in the NHL in a long time. Holland just got absolutely screwed LOL.
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Keith + Kassian combine for $9.1MM in cap space
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One of (or both?) Neal and Kostin'em to be bought out....
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Anti-Oilers sentiment aside, this is one of the most lopsided trades I've seen in the NHL in a long time. Holland just got absolutely screwed LOL.
Yep, this isn't Flames fans ripping on the Oilers...this move is being universally laughed at
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If I were the Oilers, I would let Larsson/Smith walk.

Use the $10M to add some other impact player. Ride with Koskinen/Stalock in net.

I think users here overplaying Oilers cap space issues. Next year they have a whopping $32M+ in cap space after you account for Keith with only Nurse/Starting Goalie to sign.

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Yamamoto probably will get $3.5M, and I doubt Smith will take less than the $3.75M he got last year.

So even if you call it $7M that leaves the Oilers with $5M. And they want to re-sign Larsson too.

Really they have no money left to make a big addition without money going out.
Yup, and they have to sign a couple depth forwards to even fill a roster, as signing Yamamoto still only brings them to 11, so that's another $2-3 million to get them to 13-14 forwards.

That still leaves them with Nurse - Bear - Russell - Keith as the top 4 D in the depth chart.
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If I were the Oilers, I would let Larsson/Smith walk.

Use the $10M to add some other impact player. Ride with Koskinen/Stalock in net.
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That’s a team that knows how to lose a trade.
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The fact that Holland is paying for Neal, Keith, Kassian, Koskinen and (still) Lucic is just awesome. This man is a national treasure and his spot in that organization should be preserved at all costs.
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If I were the Oilers, I would let Larsson/Smith walk.

Use the $10M to add some other impact player. Ride with Koskinen/Stalock in net.
They have to sign Yamamoto, and a couple other forwards to get to 13-14 on the roster.

There's not enough money left for an impact player anywhere.
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:25 PM   #139
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Which is worse?

Pierre McGuire hire.

This trade.
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Old 07-12-2021, 01:25 PM   #140
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As it stands, the Oilers cap hit is $65.3M, plus potential performance bonuses of $1.75M, leaving them with a little less than $15.3M in cap space.

They have 10 forwards, 7 D, and a goalie under contract, looking like so:

RNH - McDavid - Pulju
XXX - Draisaitl - XXX
Shore - Turris - Kassian
Archibald - McLeod - Neal

Nurse - Bear
Keith - Bouchard
Broberg - Russell
Lagesson

XXX
Koskinen

They need a starting goalie, 2 top 6 wingers, and 2 more bodies to sign.

However, that includes the fact that there are NO NHLers in the bottom 6, and the top 4 on D include Nurse, Keith, Bear and Bouchard.

They don't need a couple wingers, they need 4 or 5 top 9 forwards, 3 more top 4 D, and a #1 goalie, in order to have a playoff team.

Good luck with that.
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