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Old 03-22-2021, 08:05 PM   #201
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I agree that there’s guys you shouldn’t be looking to move, but I don’t think there’s very many truly untouchable players in the NHL to begin with, and certainly none of them are in Flames uniforms.

Markstrom was the one name I thought about when I posted that. So in my view he’s as close as it gets on the Flames, but if someone blows you away with a package for him it shouldn’t be off the table.

For the record I think it would be insanely stupid to trade Markstrom and he’s my favourite Flame this year.
Yup...unless you are going scorched earth, which this organization is not, you keep the goaltender. Look how long it took to get him to begin with.

There will be changes, big ones, so you want the guys coming in to at least have a chance. Something impossible if you dont have a legit goaltender.
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It's time to strip the C from Giordano.

And give it to who? I don’t disagree but who would you give it to? Lucic? Tanev? Mang? I’d actually be ok with no Captain. See if anyone wants it.
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Tried to take the game puck away from Ottawa’s goalie (his first NHL win).
That’s pathetic. Completely classless.
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Monahan needs to spend more time on the bench.
Because Lindholm was so effective tonight.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:07 PM   #205
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Because Lindholm was so effective tonight.
More effective than Monahan..that is not a high bar right now though.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:07 PM   #206
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I just saw what Andersson did. #### this team. Pathetic display.
Hes just trying to send a message
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:07 PM   #207
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That’s pathetic. Completely classless.
It was embarrassing to watch, especially after the Sens have owned them all season.
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It’s one thing to lose. You can lose and be likeable. I’ve liked many versions of this team that were bad.

This one isn’t likeable. And that stuff at the end of the game just solidifies that feeling for me. Don’t even want to cheer for them when I see that crap.
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"Ok Seattle. Now it's your turn to pick a player from the Calgary Flames."

"Nahhhh...we good"
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Hes just trying to send a message
That the Flames are whiney little baby losers? Good message.
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Come on man. That’s absolutely a team stat. I don’t know how anyone can watch the Flames this season and conclude that goaltending has been part of the issue.
I think he's been pretty average. I was expecting more from him.
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More effective than Monahan..that is not a high bar right now though.
Not tonight he wasn’t.
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Hes just trying to send a message
If the message is “I’m a classless dick”, it worked.
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Everyone who is throwing around untouchables lists keep in mind that although it’s a real struggle right now, Valimaki and Andersson and still young for dmen.

You don’t trade guys like that as they are only going to get better.

You think Anaheim doesn’t wish they kept Theodore?

We gotta keep things in perspective
BT is not moving Valimaki, Andersson or Hanifin at their ages. He will also protect Tanev since Valimaki not expansion eligible.

Gio will be left unprotected so might as well try to move him retained at deadline for a pick. Someone will bite on him given recency bias of Norris trophy. Insurance for top 4 injury.

The real interesting twist is if they have the guts to move Johnny or Mony at trade deadline. Shocking how bad that pair has been this year 5on5. Is there something going on behind the scenes between them?
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People are more mad about Andersson stealing a puck than losing to bottom 3 team trying to keep our playoff hopes alive.
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I think it says everything about where this team is at right now when Hrudey, with two minutes left in the first period, says that the Flames would have a tough mountain to climb if they go down 2-0 at that point.
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Haha same old ####. Didn’t watch and don’t really plan to watch again this season. Tired of this team. I honestly would not mind if the franchise disbanded for a couple seasons and went dormant until the new arena is finished construction. Is there any rule stopping the team from releasing all its players (effectively loaning them out), going dormant for a couple years and then returning as an expansion team? I know it’s just hyperbole, but I can’t stand this team any longer!
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Rinaldo was one of the better forwards.

That cant happen.
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BT is not moving Valimaki, Andersson or Hanifin at their ages. He will also protect Tanev since Valimaki not expansion eligible.

Gio will be left unprotected so might as well try to move him retained at deadline for a pick. Someone will bite on him given recency bias of Norris trophy. Insurance for top 4 injury.

The real interesting twist is if they have the guts to move Johnny or Mony at trade deadline. Shocking how bad that pair has been this year 5on5. Is there something going on behind the scenes between them?
Wouldn't it be good if they took Gio? Frees up some needed cap space.
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Not tonight he wasn’t.
He has been absolutely terrible since Sutter took over. Good info on it from the Athletic.
https://theathletic.com/2467969/2021...shared-article

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In the first half of the season, when Monahan was on the ice the Flames were expected to score 2.41 goals per 60 and take 1.5 goals against. That’s a modest 53 percent expected goal percentage. However, in the last six games that percentage has dropped to 36 percent, which means when Monahan is on the ice, the Flames are giving up more offensive chances to their opponents (2.39 xGA/60) than Calgary is generating (1.36 xGF/60).

It’s the lowest xG percentage of all the Flames’ centres, and only Ritchie and Nesterov are lower among all active skaters.
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