Waiting, are we criticizing Gaudreau's decision to rim it back deep around the wall there? That was the smart, safe play while protecting a lead rather than forcing a low percentage pass that would inevitably get intercepted and result in a high danger chance the other way.
Hrudey even called it out as the kind of play Sutter would like to see
Thats what I saw too, making the higher percentage play instead of trying to force a dipsy-doodle sauce pass or toe drag at the blue line.
The whole team played that way, it was frickin great. Keep it up...please!
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Waiting, are we criticizing Gaudreau's decision to rim it back deep around the wall there? That was the smart, safe play while protecting a lead rather than forcing a low percentage pass that would inevitably get intercepted and result in a high danger chance the other way.
Hrudey even called it out as the kind of play Sutter would like to see
Not saying it's a bad play at all! Just saying from the 2-3 dumps that stuck out to me, he could have elected to carry it over the line, I did see a teammate entering the zone with him. It's just something I noticed that didn't result in regaining puck possession. (Albeit one rim the puck went out play.)
Just like the players, I myself need to adjust and give that line a chance to play that way. Just hard to see them as a chip/dump and chase line. I do prefer to see Monahan play this way, I think it actually will get him more engaged deep in the zone.
I've never played a competitive game of hockey in my life, and one game into the new Sutter era even I can tell the technical analysis of this board goes through the roof. So many great hockey minds on CP. Carry on.
One of the biggest adjustments I hoped Darryl Sutter would make and he did. I was hoping to a see less aggressive forecheck and we saw it yesterday. I don’t think I saw one instance of inefficient forechecking, no chasing. There was the occasional flush out, but you could see F1 and F2 dropping back further which added another layer of defense to the neutral zone resulting in a less overtaxed forwards and defensemen. The D were able to stand up at the blueline more as they had more support and opposition wasn’t coming at them full steam ahead. So all in all it resulted in more difficult entries, less zone time, less odd man rushes and ultimately less shots on goal (18).
So hats off to Darryl Sutter for recognizing that this needed to be changed as it was just too difficult of a style to maintain for this personnel. They’re not the fastest group, so overtaxing them leads to exhaustion and the first thing that shuts down when your tired is your brain, so you end up making more mistakes from lack of attention to detail. That’s the most important change I noticed yesterday. It makes for a more boring brand of hockey, but like I’ve said in the past, I’ll take boring wins over infuriating losses any day.
Good to see that the 4th line is finally contributing at a consistent level, that’ll help. Not sure how much longer this team can rely on this though as the other 3 lines are still having trouble finding chemistry. If Darryl can finally figure out a better fit for all 3 lines, then that’s probably the last major adjustment that’s left to figure out. Then this team should really get on a roll.
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It makes for a more boring brand of hockey, but like I’ve said in the past, I’ll take boring wins over infuriating losses any day.
I was more entertained by game 1 of the Sutter 2.0 era than almost any of the 66 previous games with Ward at the helm. win win (both in standings and fan engagement).
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Good to see that the 4th line is finally contributing at a consistent level, that’ll help. Not sure how much longer this team can rely on this though as the other 3 lines are still having trouble finding chemistry. If Darryl can finally figure out a better fit for all 3 lines, then that’s probably the last major adjustment that’s left to figure out. Then this team should really get on a roll.
Can't help but wonder if it's time to move Lindy to the top line to play with Johnny. To me, Lindy is this team's best center atm.
My biggest concern was maybe Gaudreau's choice to dump more. I am sure that Sutter likes that kind of play, but I think in Gaudreau's case, especially if he has the space he should carry it in.
Monahan was working hard to adjust to the new style and maybe he might find something there. I know I enjoyed Monahan chipping the puck in more as gaining the blue line has never been his strong suit.
It's minor, but 2-3 times I saw Gaudreau go for a hard dump when he could have gained the line fairly easily. I think once he adjusts a bit more to the system he'll find himself making that choice more naturally, cause last night, it just felt like forced dumps.
This is another case of a star player in Canada like Johnny Gaudreau who can just never win. People rake him over the coals for his constant turnovers, so when he finally just makes the safe play to dump it in, he still gets criticized over it.
Fans will need to either accept the turnovers he makes if he does the carry the puck more or accept that he’ll be creating much fewer plays because he’s playing more conservative and dumping it in. We as fans cannot have it both ways, nobody bats a .1000. Personally, I’ve generally always been fine with his turnovers because of he has the rare ability to make and create plays out of nothing even if it costs his team once in a while.
I don’t mean to just single you out Kickazzflames as a lot of Canadian fans seem to do this. That’s why Canada is on so many No Trade Lists, because we’re too hard on star players.
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I was more entertained by game 1 of the Sutter 2.0 era than almost any of the 66 previous games with Ward at the helm. win win (both in standings and fan engagement).
To each their own. I personally liked Geoff Ward’s system because it’s high event hockey. But only when we’re winning more than losing obviously. When you’re getting blown out every other game, not so much fun. But as I’ve said before, that’s more on the GM in my opinion for constructing the roster to play a style that doesn’t fit the team. A slower and lazy team like the Flames should be playing a more conservative style so they don’t have to expend as much energy playing inefficiently. Sure if you’re a fast team filled with guys who can buzz around and still apply pressure all over the ice, then you can get away with playing less inefficiently. But ultimately, I think Darryl’s system is a better fit for this group.
Can't help but wonder if it's time to move Lindy to the top line to play with Johnny. To me, Lindy is this team's best center atm.
I’m all for moving Gaudreau with Lindholm. Their style of play is more of a fir then say Tkachuk and Lindholm. Tkachuk should be playing with Backlund. Those two just work, they both read off each other well, have excellent timing together, both strong on the cycle.
Not once have I seen Tkachuk’s blind pass from behind the net connect with Lindholm whereas it seemed to always work with Backlund. They’re a perfect match.
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No comments about the Lucic fight? That was a great heavyweight tilt. I never really see him get hit, just glancing blows on the back of his helmet. I don’t think Anderson came back after that. At least his name was ever mentioned.
Lucic has played well this year. But he stepped it up another notch in the last few.
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Really loving Lucic. Overpaid for sure, but the dude’s a smart hockey player and brings such strength along the wall. So much mass there - when he lays the body he just seems to effortlessly delete guys from the puck.
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This is another case of a star player in Canada like Johnny Gaudreau who can just never win. People rake him over the coals for his constant turnovers, so when he finally just makes the safe play to dump it in, he still gets criticized over it.
Fans will need to either accept the turnovers he makes if he does the carry the puck more or accept that he’ll be creating much fewer plays because he’s playing more conservative and dumping it in. We as fans cannot have it both ways, nobody bats a .1000. Personally, I’ve generally always been fine with his turnovers because of he has the rare ability to make and create plays out of nothing even if it costs his team once in a while.
I don’t mean to just single you out Kickazzflames as a lot of Canadian fans seem to do this. That’s why Canada is on so many No Trade Lists, because we’re too hard on star players.
Ooh. Swing and a miss.
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This is another case of a star player in Canada like Johnny Gaudreau who can just never win. People rake him over the coals for his constant turnovers, so when he finally just makes the safe play to dump it in, he still gets criticized over it.
Fans will need to either accept the turnovers he makes if he does the carry the puck more or accept that he’ll be creating much fewer plays because he’s playing more conservative and dumping it in. We as fans cannot have it both ways, nobody bats a .1000. Personally, I’ve generally always been fine with his turnovers because of he has the rare ability to make and create plays out of nothing even if it costs his team once in a while.
I don’t mean to just single you out Kickazzflames as a lot of Canadian fans seem to do this. That’s why Canada is on so many No Trade Lists, because we’re too hard on star players.
If people are complaining about JG dumping it in....they ned to give their freakin heads a shake.
Half the problem has been that the opposition KNOWS he will try and dangle by them and when he inevitably does....they are all over it. The guy will skate straight into someone to try and gain the zone. Its stupid and infuriating.
Yes Johnny....skate like the wind until almost there, chip it off the boards when they are standing nearly still to take it away...and go get the damn thing.
He needs to do it WAY more so they cant just hone in on one thing. He, and linemates, will be much better for it.
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