Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-12-2021, 08:21 AM   #341
Geeoff
Franchise Player
 
Geeoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy View Post
lol I think Sutter is trolling y'all

He says "there was a line I couldn't put out there".

Doesn't have to mean a line was playing badly, could just mean there was a line that was tired and couldn't be put out there.
To me I think Darryl is just a really good communicator and this is a line that simultaneously roasted the press while potentially motivating 3 forward lines
Geeoff is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Geeoff For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 08:27 AM   #342
8sPOT
Powerplay Quarterback
 
8sPOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

That was a great game to watch. Such a drastic change in the little details, the Flames have been guilty of thinking the game very slowly. In this game they were on the puck and then quickly making the next play. No hesitation, all confidence.

That was Gio's best game all year.

Lindholm got roughed up a good bit and still was battling out there.

Hanifin really has taken strides, literally and figuratively.

I think Dube and Mange are poised to take it to the next level under Sutter.

It looked like an actual TEAM effort out there. Everyone engaged, everyone pulling in the same direction.

I love this kind of hockey.

Montreal will be a much tougher out on Saturday, going to be a good one.
8sPOT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 08:37 AM   #343
Kovaz
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Exp:
Default

Biggest thing I noticed: quicker, more-decisive puck movement. Felt like even for Gaudreau it was two strides then move the puck. I think that'll make a huge difference - it makes it so much easier for the guys off the puck. Even when we're dumping and chasing, if it happens quickly, the guys at the blueline are already at speed and the forecheck is that much more effective. Really noticed Dube in particular attacking dump-ins with speed.
Kovaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 08:38 AM   #344
Tkachukwagon
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Tkachukwagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Exp:
Default

Loved this Derek Ryan quote about last nights game, from Hailey Salvian’s Athletic recap:

Quote:
“I think it was evident in our last couple days of practice that it’s very obvious how he wants us to play,” Derek Ryan said. “He wants a fast-paced game, structured, and I think that’s what you saw for just about a full 60 minutes tonight.

“I thought everybody was confident and 100 percent in what we needed to do on the ice on every shift. Nobody was hesitating or questioning anything. It was a lot of fun to play that way.”
Tkachukwagon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 20 Users Say Thank You to Tkachukwagon For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 08:45 AM   #345
Ryan Coke
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Exp:
Default

Really illustrates the difference that a coach can make. No, a coach doesn’t tell the team to play slow, or to not go to the front of the net offensively, or to turn the puck over at the blue lines.

But it depends on the clarity and reinforcement of the messaging. If it is clearly and repeatedly stressed that the team needs to turn it up ice quickly, instead of continual D to D passes, then you will get more of that desired behaviour. If they are continually reminded to get to the front of the net and gets shots at the net, that will happen.

So if one coach isn’t clear in the message, and if it is not constantly focused and reinforced, then those behaviours won’t occur with consistency.

After one game, most of us can identify particular actions that Sutter feels are important.

And that doesn’t even get into the bigger picture of culture and accountability.

Coaching matters.
Ryan Coke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Ryan Coke For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 08:48 AM   #346
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Coke View Post
Really illustrates the difference that a coach can make. No, a coach doesn’t tell the team to play slow, or to not go to the front of the net offensively, or to turn the puck over at the blue lines.

But it depends on the clarity and reinforcement of the messaging. If it is clearly and repeatedly repeated that the team needs to turn it up ice quickly, instead of continual D to D passes, then you will get more of that desired behaviour. If they are continually reminded to get to the front of the net and gets shots at the net, that will happen.

So if one coach isn’t clear in the message, and if it is not constantly stressed and reinforced, then those behaviours won’t occur with consistency.

After one game, most of us can identify particular actions that Sutter feels are important.

And that doesn’t even get into the bigger picture of culture and accountability.

Coaching matters.
Sutter matters. IMO there’s very few coaches that can get this from this team and less that can make it stick. Sutter is a bigger name than them, has more credibility, which is more than you can say for any previous coach they had. I don’t think many other coaches, including ones who are successful with other teams, could do it. Sutter is a top 5-3 coach in the NHL.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 08:53 AM   #347
nomnom
Draft Pick
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M. View Post
Did I miss Yanet?
Post 65
https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...6&postcount=65
nomnom is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to nomnom For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 08:54 AM   #348
DeluxeMoustache
 
DeluxeMoustache's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

It could be a chicken and egg thing

You could argue that the inexcusable succession of weak coaches made a coach like Sutter necessary
DeluxeMoustache is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 08:54 AM   #349
Robbob
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC View Post
Part of me thinks he is doing a crossword or Sudoku.
Robbob is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Robbob For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 08:54 AM   #350
Wastedyouth
Truculent!
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Exp:
Default

180 game.

That wasn't a, oh they had their confidence and everything was bouncing their way cakewalk. That was a, know where you are, know where you are supposed to be. Break out like this, forecheck like this.

Be here. Be there, don't think, play hockey kinda game.

I hope it sticks, because that is good hockey.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969 View Post
It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
Wastedyouth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 09:04 AM   #351
Rhettzky
Franchise Player
 
Rhettzky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Section 222
Exp:
Default

Great game last night! Really impressed with how quick they have adjusted their play. Saw Andersen go behind our net to set-up a break out and then almost catch himself and just take off immediately. So seems like they are getting used to the style and it'll be fun to see when they really settle in.

Wasn't really a fan of Nesterov he just looked out of place too many times. I think the higher tempo game they played last night really exposed him. Would love to see Kylington but is there some issue with him playing 6 games and needing to be protected? Maybe that's why they've been hesitant to play him but I'd really like to see him more.
__________________
Go Flames Go!!
Rhettzky is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rhettzky For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:13 AM   #352
Robbob
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner View Post
Together, Wayne and Brent hold the NHL record for most combined points by two brothers - 2,857 for Wayne and 4 for Brent, and are second overall in points scored by any number of brothers (behind the six brothers of the Sutter family who combined for 2,934 NHL points - 73 more than Wayne and Brent),
Pretty sure the Gretzky family tree is now 4th. Ahead are clan Sutter, Hull, and Stastny.
Robbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 09:16 AM   #353
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhettzky View Post
Great game last night! Really impressed with how quick they have adjusted their play. Saw Andersen go behind our net to set-up a break out and then almost catch himself and just take off immediately. So seems like they are getting used to the style and it'll be fun to see when they really settle in.

Wasn't really a fan of Nesterov he just looked out of place too many times. I think the higher tempo game they played last night really exposed him. Would love to see Kylington but is there some issue with him playing 6 games and needing to be protected? Maybe that's why they've been hesitant to play him but I'd really like to see him more.
I believe this was resolved some time ago. Kylington is not exempt from protection. He may provide a bit more with his skating, but for a long time every coach has been frustrated by how he plays without the puck.

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project

Last edited by Textcritic; 03-12-2021 at 10:01 AM.
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:24 AM   #354
cam_wmh
Franchise Player
 
cam_wmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing View Post
Nope. Sutters are 2934, Gretzkys are 2861, by my math.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner View Post
Together, Wayne and Brent hold the NHL record for most combined points by two brothers - 2,857 for Wayne and 4 for Brent, and are second overall in points scored by any number of brothers (behind the six brothers of the Sutter family who combined for 2,934 NHL points - 73 more than Wayne and Brent),

+ Playoff points put it in Gretz favour.
cam_wmh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 09:37 AM   #355
Buff
Franchise Player
 
Buff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob View Post
Pretty sure the Gretzky family tree is now 4th. Ahead are clan Sutter, Hull, and Stastny.
Bobby and Dennis are brothers, Brett is the son of Bobby. So they don't count in this comparison.

Same with Paul being the son of Peter Stastny, whose brothers are Marian and Anton.

Now, if you're just proving that the Gretzky's aren't top 3 in family scoring. I'm behind you on this one!
Buff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2021, 09:40 AM   #356
tvp2003
Franchise Player
 
tvp2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhettzky View Post
Great game last night! Really impressed with how quick they have adjusted their play. Saw Andersen go behind our net to set-up a break out and then almost catch himself and just take off immediately. So seems like they are getting used to the style and it'll be fun to see when they really settle in.
I noticed one sequence where Tanev collected the puck in his own end and immediately started sprinting up the ice with it. It's little things like that which can wear down the other team and keep the pressure on. Much more entertaining to watch as well.
tvp2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tvp2003 For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:43 AM   #357
activeStick
Franchise Player
 
activeStick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Was really nice seeing a near 60 minute effort from the team and frankly, not a surprise given Sutter is there now. Also didn't surprise me to see the bottom 6 lead the team in driving play as the north-south, game is closer to their games than the top 6. A lot of our stars like to slow the game down so I think it'll take a few games and practices for them to adapt but you could see they were trying. They think the game at a high level so I think they'll get there. Saw a few instances of players moving the puck backwards instead of forwards out of panic and habit but much fewer than before. Markstrom and Rittich are going to enjoy playing behind a structured, defensively responsible team, I think.
activeStick is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to activeStick For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:44 AM   #358
Robbob
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff View Post
Bobby and Dennis are brothers, Brett is the son of Bobby. So they don't count in this comparison.

Same with Paul being the son of Peter Stastny, whose brothers are Marian and Anton.

Now, if you're just proving that the Gretzky's aren't top 3 in family scoring. I'm behind you on this one!
Yeah, I was specifically mentioning the family name or the NHL family tree. The Tkachuk one will be interesting when all is said and done. Potential to pass the Gretzky's if Matthew and Brady have long careers. I think the Sutter one will be hard to beat.
Robbob is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Robbob For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:46 AM   #359
edslunch
Franchise Player
 
edslunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion View Post

I love this. It’s like Darryl is trying to get some work done in his office and these reporters keep interrupting him
edslunch is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to edslunch For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2021, 09:49 AM   #360
Rhettzky
Franchise Player
 
Rhettzky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Section 222
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic View Post
I believe this was resolved some time ago. Kylington is not exempt from protection. He may provide a bit more with his skating, but for a long time every coach has been frustrated by how he ays without the puck.

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
Capfriendly says he needs to play 3 more games to meet the requirements.

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle
__________________
Go Flames Go!!
Rhettzky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:49 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy