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Old 02-13-2021, 09:58 PM   #821
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PP has been terrible this game but has been pretty good this season

Gaudreau is fumbling the puck tonight, not the coaches fault
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:58 PM   #822
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Hopefully there’s like smelling salts they can take this intermission or something.
Cocaine works too.

Anything to counteract the horse tranquilizer in their systems.
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:59 PM   #823
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Mackey looked like he wanted to play the puck, but when he saw Johnny kind of move like he was going to grab it, Mackey backed off it and no one took it.
It's the kind of play you'd expect from a guy playing his first game in the NHL.
Yep. I’m not blaming him for the goal. Just pointing out that he was involved. He had a chance to clear the puck, but backed off because him and Johnny didn’t communicate.
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Dube with the game winner.
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:59 PM   #825
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Honestly if the stack 4 at the blue line it's pretty easy retrieval with a dump in and you usually get to punish a dman as well.
That would require the flames to either a) move their feet for more than a push push glide or b) hit someone and not just do a fly by
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:59 PM   #826
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The bump back only works if executed with pace.

The lead guy is supposed to skate with pace to push the dmen back and then when the second guy comes in he’s supposed to be flying catching the dmen flat footed.

It’s only an issue because the Flames are trying to execute it at a stand still.

I’m not a fan of this coaching staff but that one is all execution.
Exactly. It's all about hitting the blue line as a unit, they're just not timing it right tonight and 3-4 guys have to stop to not go offside
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:59 PM   #827
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Cocaine works too.

Anything to counteract this horse tranquilizer they're on.
Well sir! This was a potent and hilarious take
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:59 PM   #828
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Cocaine works too.

Anything to counteract this horse tranquilizer they're on.

It's worked for Virtanen so far in his career.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:00 PM   #829
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Too cool, I just got a call out during the 2nd intermission. I’m the one watching from Perth Australia GFG!
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:00 PM   #830
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The bump back only works if executed with pace.

The lead guy is supposed to skate with pace to push the dmen back and then when the second guy comes in he’s supposed to be flying catching the dmen flat footed.

It’s only an issue because the Flames are trying to execute it at a stand still.

I’m not a fan of this coaching staff but that one is all execution.
The problem is the players generally treat it as the ONLY option. The other players needs to be more willing to carry the puck in themselves like the 2nd unit does.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:00 PM   #831
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The bump back only works if executed with pace.

The lead guy is supposed to skate with pace to push the dmen back and then when the second guy comes in he’s supposed to be flying catching the dmen flat footed.

It’s only an issue because the Flames are trying to execute it at a stand still.

I’m not a fan of this coaching staff but that one is all execution.
The Canucks are playing a few feet higher than they did Thursday. That makes JG and others have to make the decision a split second earlier.
So yes execution, but the PP system has to adapt..getting it in deep as an example as the Canucks players are that much further away from their own corner.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:01 PM   #832
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Johnny has turned the puck over on 5 or 6 PP entries, when he has gained blue line.

That’s on him.
When the opposition sees Gio on the ice, they know the only option coming is a drop-pass to Johnny, so the 4 penalty killers have 10-15 seconds get into position and then crowd him out when the crosses the line.

If someone else is leading the breakout like Ras, he can pass to Johnny, but he also sometimes carries it in himself or passes off to Lindholm, so the penalty-killers have to prepare for points of entry.

Johnny can only do so much alone against 4 players, and the other PP forwards are typically stationary at the opposing blue line, so they won't have the speed to retrieve a dump-in if Johnny changes to that option.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:01 PM   #833
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The bump back only works if executed with pace.

The lead guy is supposed to skate with pace to push the dmen back and then when the second guy comes in he’s supposed to be flying catching the dmen flat footed.

It’s only an issue because the Flames are trying to execute it at a stand still.

I’m not a fan of this coaching staff but that one is all execution.
The bump back is not about catching the opposition flat footed and blowing by. It’s about making them take a position so the carrier can spot the best entry and make a short pass just across the blue line to set up. Johnny isn’t doing that. He’s skating into the thick of the coverage.
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Average even strength TOI this season:

1. Noah Hanifin 18:23
2. Chris Tanev 17:16
3. Rasmus Andersson 16:21
4. Mark Giordano 15:51

Hmm.
He's leading the team in ice time for defenseman. I said cut his PP time and reduce his 5v5 time a little. Seems reasonable.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:02 PM   #835
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Maybe it’s just me but the Flames have looked like they expect the puck to travel quicker along the ice than it does. Like the ice is slow or something.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:03 PM   #836
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What’s the point of Johnny going on forecheck if he dumps it in 1v3
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:04 PM   #837
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Maybe it’s just me but the Flames have looked like they expect the puck to travel quicker along the ice than it does. Like the ice is slow or something.
Horse tranquilizer will do that.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:04 PM   #838
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this game management is ridiculous
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:04 PM   #839
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Surely the past tense of "highstick" is not "highstuck".
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Game management right there. Clear trip.
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