[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[PaperBagger'14]

I dont understand the idea of "we don't want to make the Bennett situation a bigger distraction" by dragging it out even longer. Rip the bandaid off and move on.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Hey, Joe can still throw.

Not when his frail bones are already breaking 5 games into the season

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I dont understand the idea of "we don't want to make the Bennett situation a bigger distraction" by dragging it out even longer. Rip the bandaid off and move on.

I mean it is a completely unverified source, take it for what you will

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by 868904

Tampa loaded up on truculence last year and won the cup. They added Bogosian, traded a 1st round pick for Blake Coleman and also added Goodrow. They also had signed Maroon in the offseason and already had a guy like Paquette on the roster.

Those 5 guys right there is more truculence than what the Flames have now.

The Lightning were soft for years and went out and got tough and won the cup.

The Leafs have been soft for years and this offseason went out and got Simmonds, Bogosian and Thornton.

It's been a key ingredient for decades yet some posters on this board keep ignoring it and wanting the Flames to go all skill and small.

Have to be careful as there seems to be a conclusion some are jumping to that not liking Sam Bennett (or at least thinking he can be let go of fairly easily) equates to not liking heavy hockey. I don't mind letting Sam go as he is expressly not heavy enough.
It's hard to build/coach a team when you don't know what a player will bring season in and out.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I dont understand the idea of "we don't want to make the Bennett situation a bigger distraction" by dragging it out even longer. Rip the bandaid off and move on.

Because that's not how trades work? You have to have a committed partner and a return of value that you're comfortable with. You can't make a trade just for the hell of it.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nik-

Standards of journalism are overrated. MUST BE FIRST!

That's what happens though when the industry moves to make it feel like you are rewarded for being first but there really is no punishment for being wrong.

Like what's the consequence of being wrong...a bunch of us here on a forum talk about how the standards of journalism are no good.

[tknez16]

Fans would probably hate this, but what about a cap saving move?

To OTT:
Sam Bennett
Flames 3rd

To CGY:
Braydon Coburn (already cleared waivers)
Logan Shaw
SJ 2nd

Cap space up over 2M if Coburn stays on the taxi squad, and frees up Mackey to go to Stockton as their season should start sometime.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I almost missed this because I was focused on Athanasiou, who was only outscored in goals and points by Larkin, was somehow a bottom 6er when he was traded.



But Lazar was also 21 when he was traded. If Bennett was traded three years ago, given his pedigree, potential and upside of course he would be worth at least a 2nd like Lazar was. But that was three years ago. Same with Baertschi who was 21. Bennett is 24 today, you're no longer paying for potential so again the Lazar comparable just doesn't fit.

Anyone been following that Lazar pick and what it turned into by chance?

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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by tknez16

Fans would probably hate this, but what about a cap saving move?

To OTT:
Sam Bennett
Flames 3rd

To CGY:
Braydon Coburn (already cleared waivers)
Logan Shaw
SJ 2nd

Cap space up over 2M if Coburn stays on the taxi squad, and frees up Mackey to go to Stockton as their season should start sometime.

You are right I do hate this move

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by 868904

Tampa loaded up on truculence last year and won the cup. They added Bogosian, traded a 1st round pick for Blake Coleman and also added Goodrow. They also had signed Maroon in the offseason and already had a guy like Paquette on the roster.

Those 5 guys right there is more truculence than what the Flames have now.

The Lightning were soft for years and went out and got tough and won the cup.

The Leafs have been soft for years and this offseason went out and got Simmonds, Bogosian and Thornton.

It's been a key ingredient for decades yet some posters on this board keep ignoring it and wanting the Flames to go all skill and small.

I actually think the Flames are one of the more truculent teams with Lucic, Rinaldo, Chucky, Bennett, Buddy, Ritchie. The Flames dont have the high end talent to let these types have a regular shift though (not talking about Chucky or Bennett). You can mix in more role players when you have the star power like Tampa and TO. The Flames start giving Buddy, Ritchie and Looch more ice time and it goes down hill quick. Our stars cant elevate them and / or compensate for those guys getting more ice time.. we need big bodies that can play or more more high end stars that can drag these types around and bounce pucks off of them. We have plenty of pure role players.

[Burning Beard]

How could the Flames make something work with Tampa for Tyler Johnson?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Chonger

Anyone been following that Lazar pick and what it turned into by chance?

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Alex Formenton. Decent AHL stats but yet to stick in the NHL.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

How could the Flames make something work with Tampa for Tyler Johnson?

TJ wont waive. They're stuck with him. I thought this was documented in the offseason.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Because that's not how trades work? You have to have a committed partner and a return of value that you're comfortable with. You can't make a trade just for the hell of it.

Just ask Doug Riseborough.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

That's what happens though when the industry moves to make it feel like you are rewarded for being first but there really is no punishment for being wrong.

Like what's the consequence of being wrong...a bunch of us here on a forum talk about how the standards of journalism are no good.

Eventually people just stop listening to you. You may continue to report things but no one really cares.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

How could the Flames make something work with Tampa for Tyler Johnson?

Bennett for Johnson with $2M retained by Tampa.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by dammage79

TJ wont waive. They're stuck with him. I thought this was documented in the offseason.

He didn't want to go from the Stanley Cup winner to Detroit. Understandable. He might do it for Calgary, knowing that he would have a real shot at second line minutes. Tampa would have to eat 50% of the salary.

[Burning Beard]

Johnson is from Spokane too where lots of people are Flames fans. Just a thought anyway.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Johnson is still a 45 point player. At 5M and their cap challenges it's a bit much, but they aren't going to need to retain 2.5M to move him (if he waives).

[Enoch Root]

what would the Flames have to add for Johnson with $2M retained?

a 2nd? a 3rd? a Mete?