[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Over whom that we already have? We have replacement level players already slotting onto our 1st line, and you think its a good idea to trade a forward for a D man right now?

I never said it was a good idea. I'm just moreso responding to people suggesting Mete is some plug or useless player.

Does he fit our current roster? No, not really. So the trade rumour doesn't really make any sense, I'll agree with that.

But you're dealing with 2 disgruntled players that don't have to quarantine if a trade was to go down so it's not entirely crazy.

[dino7c]

Bennett could also be replaced by a taxi squad guy with little to no difference.

1 ####ing point

[Geeoff]

Mete would be in the same situation here as he is in Montreal.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Mete would be in the same situation here as he is in Montreal.

Probably worse. I think Kylington and Mackey would suit up before he would.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Mete would be in the same situation here as he is in Montreal.

Yea that's essentially what doesn't make much sense. Unless there's something else going down.

[SuperMatt18]

I saw a Leafs fan mention they would do Kerfoot for Bennett...I'd do that in a second I think

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Lazar got a 2nd.

I almost missed this because I was focused on Athanasiou, who was only outscored in goals and points by Larkin, was somehow a bottom 6er when he was traded.

But Lazar was also 21 when he was traded. If Bennett was traded three years ago, given his pedigree, potential and upside of course he would be worth at least a 2nd like Lazar was. But that was three years ago. Same with Baertschi who was 21. Bennett is 24 today, you're no longer paying for potential so again the Lazar comparable just doesn't fit.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

It is fair if you think that way and I won't try to convince you otherwise but I do think it matters. I think heavy players matter during playoffs, playing heavy because it is a different game (officiating, intensity etc.)

IMO playoff hockey gets less pretty and more heavy/gritty (I guess I am trying to convince you haha).

But as I stated in an earlier post, if you don't think it's important then to each their own but I respect your position because I could be wrong.

As I said to The Boy Wonder moments ago, I am speculating on this; it is not my position.
I agree with heavy hockey in the playoffs.
Just going from memory, though, did Tampa have heavy hitters crushing opposition D last year in the bubble? Honest question as I don't know.

Also, I remember the first few games of the CGY/DAL series. The narrative from commentators was how all the hits on the Stars D was going to soften them up for later in the series.
Didn't seem to work that way.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hmm yeah, a deep defensive team needs more d men. I mean if a Bennett trade went down that way, I'd totally belive it because it's the treliving way after all. Must. Have. All. The. Defensemen.

This team has issues scoring 5 on 5. I fail to see how a defenseman is going to remedy that. I would rather the return be picks than another defenseman but Brad Treliving has a weird love affair with the position so I wouldn't be surprised in the the least if a defenseman was the return.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That's not how trade value works.

Someone has to be willing to pay that price.

Brad has two options. Accept market value or don't trade him.

There is no magical third option where he forces another GM to pay more than they want or more than Bennett is worth.

Trade value isn't determined by a fake post. What is your point here?

We think the proposal in the fake post is bad. Somehow you want to state that that is not how trade value works. But you have no idea what 'Brad' has been offered.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Knut

Not sure where Mete Fits on the roster to be honest. Is he really better than Valimaki or Nesterov ?

An undersized dman that has not really translated offense to the NHL yet.

I don't think he is better than Kylington, never mind Valimaki or Nesterov

[Vinny01]

When I try and see what is out there on Twitter there is just a bunch of junk suggestions and many Rangers fans are pushing the Deangelo option.

I was very disappointed when I saw the Scorp thread about Mete and really hope when the deal does go down it is much better than a toxic Dman or a LHD that would be 3rd on our taxi squad.

[868904]

Originally Posted by blender

As I said to The Boy Wonder moments ago, I am speculating on this; it is not my position.
I agree with heavy hockey in the playoffs.
Just going from memory, though, did Tampa have heavy hitters crushing opposition D last year in the bubble? Honest question as I don't know.

Also, I remember the first few games of the CGY/DAL series. The narrative from commentators was how all the hits on the Stars D was going to soften them up for later in the series.
Didn't seem to work that way.

Tampa loaded up on truculence last year and won the cup. They added Bogosian, traded a 1st round pick for Blake Coleman and also added Goodrow. They also had signed Maroon in the offseason and already had a guy like Paquette on the roster.

Those 5 guys right there is more truculence than what the Flames have now.

The Lightning were soft for years and went out and got tough and won the cup.

The Leafs have been soft for years and this offseason went out and got Simmonds, Bogosian and Thornton.

It's been a key ingredient for decades yet some posters on this board keep ignoring it and wanting the Flames to go all skill and small.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by 868904

The Leafs have been soft for years and this offseason went out and got Simmonds, Bogosian and Thornton.

The Leafs got 41 year old Thornton for his toughness?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Not sure if mentioned before here, but the Bennett/Mete trade is a fake. Apparently someone got taken in by a fake tweet from Habs twitter.

Scrutinizing the source before you report something seems to be a pretty basic tenet of journalism.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by nik-

Scrutinizing the source before you report something seems to be a pretty basic tenet of journalism.

It's amazing what passes for journalism these days.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Leafs got 41 year old Thornton for his toughness?

Hey, Joe can still throw.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by nik-

Scrutinizing the source before you report something seems to be a pretty basic tenet of journalism.

Especially if you have a verified Twitter account and work for Sportsnet. That "Seravalli" tweet was a pretty clear fake.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Leafs got 41 year old Thornton for his toughness?

Lol the fella arguing with me about Bennett earlier in the trade thread also made reference to Thornton being a tough guy (specifically tougher than Monahan.) I don't understand it at all, it's like they didn't watch any of Joe's career.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

It's amazing what passes for journalism these days.

Standards of journalism are overrated. MUST BE FIRST!